16ga.com ~ View topic - Cheddites stick in chamber, fail to extract, fet, any help?

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

The base is steel not brass. The steel does no retract the way the old brass base did. If you have a supper sizer. Or loading with a mec 9000. Just adjust the resizer collect to squeeze the base about .002 below factory specs. Or measure the base of a unfired factory load.
I had the same problem with my mod.12's citori's , doubles. After I sized them down .002 more I have had no problems in any of them.
Good luck.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

I'll try this again. Just resize them .002 below unfired factory shell. Base is steel but plated brass. Base does no retract the way the old brass did.
The steel stuck in all my mod 12', citori's , sxs's. If you have a supersizer or mec 9000 readjust your collet.
I had no problem after that.

Joined: 31 Jan 2013 Posts: 152 Location: San Diego

update: A round of trap with my re-grooved Cheddites was better than not grooved- still, 7 FTE. Help. but no silver bullet.

Next outing, I loaded only high brass huks0 Feds and Fiocchii. Feds were nearly flawless, Fiochiis stuck every time.

I had noticed that the brass f Cheds and Fuiocchis had a mark at the chamber rig line. Doesn't mic, but it is there- on one side. Up shot, my chamber ring was turned 180 degrees. I didn't think it could be assembled that way. About .004" off, but Cheds only spring back about .002.

Next outing, bring a mixed batch of everything. Still waiting on my powdered Teflon from China.

Joined: 16 Jul 2015 Posts: 2124 Location: Hudson,Wy

Wax on, wax off; Daniel San. Everything be slick then.

Sorry, couldn't resist. It seems that if Federals work, I would find more of them. Perhaps trade Cheddites for Federals with somebody who has no Cheddite troubles.

I would expect the fiber base Feds to be great , but now that they are going to the Chedd style plastic base , that things will go to worse !!

Joined: 24 Jul 2016 Posts: 548 Location: Ohio

REALLY!! When is this gonna happen? This is a new one on me,I do hope they aren't farming 16 gauge production out to Rio like their Walmart promo loads.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

As I stated before . I have not had a problem after resizing .002 below factory loads . No problem with any of my 16's. gun.

Must resize after every firing exspecialy when used in different guns.
Collet type.bnot the ring type.

I would expect the fiber base Feds to be great , but now that they are going to the Chedd style plastic base , that things will go to worse !!

Not true. What you have encountered is the Estate shells from France which are imported by Federal. They are in the white boxes.

So.....I just went through my stash of 16 ga. once fired hulls. The rim diameter measured from .807" to .811". The hulls included Federal, Winchester, Remington, Herters and Cheddite.

I don't think that .004" is going to be the issue for poor ejecting.......oh BTW the Herters were the smallest at .807" the largest I had were the Federals at .811" the green Cheddite's measured .810".

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

You do realize that literally millions of steel metal head ammo is run through all manner of shotguns with no cycling issues whatsoever? Just because you have an older shotgun makes no difference.

If your shotgun will not function with the proper length/gauge new ammo, you have a shotgun problem.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

Wasn't only happening in 16's but in many Perrazzi, Colar, Brownings. Many of these problems show up on the trap. Especially at games. I'm assuming because many guys load pretty jot loads.
The sticking problem was not happening to one gauge or one type of gun. Winchester have had a problem with their AA' S of mis firing. Appears to be the primer is to deep. Problem seem to happen just in a small run with certain lot numbers.