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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Herters hull |
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:24 pm
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Your thoughts & recipes. I know their cheddite hulls but the quality seems a little better. Maybe it's just me. I generally load mostly cheddite over the past few years. Shooting mainly games 3 to 4 times a week. Once or twice a month ATA. This year though I havent had the time to travel to ATA events as much. But rather shoot games anyway |
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:43 pm
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnesota
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The crimps split for me after 2-3 loadings. |
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:20 pm
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Joined: 27 Jan 2016
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Location: Oswego, Kansas
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I have been loading the Herters hulls for a couple years and still haven't had any split crimps after at least four reloads of each hull. I mostly shoot them in my SxS guns so I don't have to chase down my empties after they are thrown out by my Rem M11 or my M12 Win. |
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:48 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnesota
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Wonder if I got a bad batch of Herters hulls or if it’s my loader, a mec sizemaster.
I sure end up splitting a lot of crimps. |
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:58 am
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Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Have reloaded 2 flats which were bought a year apart. They start to split after 3 reloads and are done after 4.
I also use a Mec Sizemaster. |
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:07 am
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Joined: 09 Jan 2013
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Location: Florida
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Square Load wrote: |
Have reloaded 2 flats which were bought a year apart. They start to split after 3 reloads and are done after 4.
I also use a Mec Sizemaster.
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Same here. |
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:04 pm
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Joined: 12 Feb 2018
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Location: West-central Missouri
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MEC plastic crimp starters? I found a pair of aftermarket metal crimp starters of unknown mfg. in a garage sale. They added an extra reloading to most of my hulls on the size-master. Maybe they help or maybe I'm more careful with the alignment and that helps keep the hull alive. 4 reloads is normal without cracking. Cut and used once more for a rolled shortie if they look good inside... |
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Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:30 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
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I believe alot has to do with type of powder also. My loads aren't squimish. I load mainly for trap playing games .. I noticed when I tried 20/28 I got longer life on the crimps. Most hulls I get 5 to 8 reloads except for ACTIVES & BLACK REM. The plastic seems to brittle. ACTIVES after first reload split terribly. Rems are lucky if I get 3 reloads.
My main powder now is 20/28 the last 2 yrs. Green dot, claydot, 700x, 572, bluedot, clays not good. Universal and longshot are terrible. Both when I use the recommended load the gun bout jumps out of my hands.
As far as the loader I don't think if it's set-up properly has much to do with the hulls splitting. I occasionally I use a mec and find no problems their either. |
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Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:08 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnesota
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Interesting comment re powders.
I use Unique for light loads and Long Shot for hunting loads and as noted above, I get lots of split crimps after 2-3 loadings b |
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:51 am
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Joined: 28 Apr 2017
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Location: Central Oklahoma
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The best 16 gauge hull today is the Browning 16 gauge hull IMO. It is made of a better plastic and also has a Cheddite basewad. The down side is they are quite a bit more expensive than the Herters. |
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:52 am
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Joined: 28 Apr 2017
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Location: Central Oklahoma
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The best 16 gauge hull today is the Browning 16 gauge hull. |
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:50 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnesota
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What load data does one use for the Browning hull? |
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:16 pm
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Joined: 28 Apr 2017
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Location: Central Oklahoma
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df wrote: |
What load data does one use for the Browning hull?
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They are Cheddite. Loaded in the same factory in Australia as the Winchester/Cheddite hull. Browning says they are not for reloading, but it has a cheddite basewad so I load them that way. Since they are black they are hard to find if your auto loader kicks them a long way. |
_________________ Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,... |
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:16 pm
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Joined: 28 Apr 2017
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Location: Central Oklahoma
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df wrote: |
What load data does one use for the Browning hull?
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They are Cheddite. Loaded in the same factory in Australia as the Winchester/Cheddite hull. Browning says they are not for reloading, but it has a cheddite basewad so I load them that way. Since they are black they are hard to find if your auto loader kicks them a long way. |
_________________ Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,... |
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Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:02 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 962
Location: Minnesota
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