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Tbone
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:14 pm  Reply with quote



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Not looking to start any arguments but I need some sage advice on choosing my first and probably only 16ga SxS.

I’m looking for an upland gun to hunt bobs, dove and pheasant.

I don’t have much in the way of disposable income but I also understand that you get what you pay for. I want to go with 2 3/4” chambers and double triggers.

I’m attracted to the Ithaca NIDs but what would you folks who have more experience suggest?

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skeettx
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:36 pm  Reply with quote
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Hello Tbone,

Welcome on your first posting Smile

The NID is a fine stout gun.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788508455

You can also fine nice Belgium guns at a good price
And insure you review our For Sale section

Mike


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:53 pm  Reply with quote



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Ithaca Gun Co. NID period catalogs list the 16-gauge as being chambered for 2 9/16 inch shells up until the 1934 catalog, No. 51F. The later style NIDs without the cocking indicators like this

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/ithaca-shotguns-n-i-d-/ithaca-nd-field-grade-16-gauge.cfm?gun_id=101154709

should be chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells.

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BigCreekMI
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Regardless of your choice, but sure the stock dimensions will work for you. Welcome to our Forum.

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Pockets
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:45 pm  Reply with quote



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I would consider a modern gun being your only one. It would give you more options.
Warranty, steel shot and measurements.
Lots of choices in every price bracket.

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dannypratt
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Take a hard look at the pre-war JP Sauer sxs 16s....

They are the originator of the much famed Merkel style action (cross bolt, double under lug, etc) and are beautifully made and both strong and svelte. They handle like wands and are quite overlooked. In my 20's and early thirties I longed for a Merkel 47e or 1620...then at 36 I found a mid grade JP Sauer built in 1936. I bought it and know now that I made a better choice than I had wished for previously.
You can generally find a very nice example for 750-1000.

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skeettx
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YUP
2 3/4 or 70mm Smile
Double triggers Smile
Plenty of choke to modify if needed

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793754598

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Ted Schefelbein
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Excellent choice for a guy without much disposable income:

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This is a 1937 vintage Ithaca Lefever Nitro Special. There is a cheaper, but, just as good version called the Western Arms Long Range Gun. Good, solid, everyday shooters, with the later versions having 2 3/4” chambers. I own much more expensive guns, but, with this old guy, I sometimes wonder why. Shoots where I point, un- fussy about ammunition, trim at 6lbs, 2ozs.

There is nothing, save the name on them, associated with Daniel Myron Lefever, or his guns. You will see them advertised on for sale sites with the more expensive Lefevers, but, they are different, cheaper guns.

Good luck in your quest.

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The nid that has the shorter receivers and the cocking indicators are the better handling of the bunch. That’s been my experience at least, ymmv.
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Tbone
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:53 am  Reply with quote



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Thanks for the welcome Mike and also to all of you for your insight!

One more question. If I were to go with a modern gun, are there any out there built on a true 16ga frame that are affordable?

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FAIR Inside, good price, reasonable quality, haven't shot it long enough to determine its reliability or "ruggedness"
I like it so far, I need to have it fitted this spring, and use it throughout sporting clays season and then will have better idea about this gun.
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Fox Sterlingworth. Great vintage gun for reasonable prices. Be sure of what your buying.

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Little Creek
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If you go with a new gun, on the low price end you have CZ's made Turkey.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/790130221

They have fixed chokes and are pretty heavy for 16 gauges.

If you got away from 16 gauges...look at SKB and Miroku (Daly 500) shotguns. They are a lot for the money and often less than $1000.
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Tbone wrote:
Not looking to start any arguments but I need some sage advice on choosing my first and probably only 16ga SxS.

I’m looking for an upland gun to hunt bobs, dove and pheasant.

I don’t have much in the way of disposable income but I also understand that “YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR”. I want to go with 2 3/4” chambers and double triggers.

I’m attracted to the Ithaca NIDs but what would you folks who have more experience suggest?


I capped what I think is Avery important issue to keep in mind.
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Pockets
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I have an Iside and love it.
I have a hard time imagining 'better' quality in a new gun at the price point.

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