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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:27 pm  Reply with quote



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I have an opportunity to acquire a pretty decent Parker 10 ga. It's a hammerless grade 2 gun with nice damascus barrels. 2 7/8" chamber. My question is this: do any of you out there shoot a similar gun and are you reloading for it? This gun would fit a niche for me very well and it's always good to hear from other who have experience.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:41 pm  Reply with quote



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WYO , see if skeettx will send you the reloading pages he had for all kinds of 10ga stuff . I believe they were many cases and loads from1 or 11/8 short loads . ( I load mine for an 1889 rem hammer gun )

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:48 pm  Reply with quote



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I found some data for 1 1/2 oz lead loads at mild pressures and that is the kind of loading I am looking for, but my data is for 4756 and that's been discontinued. Hopefully there is something similar using 800-X, Longshot, etc. I'm sure skeettx will chime in. Thanks.

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skeettx
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:04 pm  Reply with quote
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Send me an email
And I will send you all my 10 gauge reloading files

My address is listed in my profile

I have an L.C. Smith Syracuse Grade 2 hammerless in 10 and an old Ithaca NID pre-50000

Mike


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fn16ga
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:34 pm  Reply with quote
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I have a NID 2 7/8" gun . I also had a 1 1/2" lead load tested . The pressure maybe more than you want . I'll look it up and post it .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:43 pm  Reply with quote
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Why not post your question on the Parker collectors site? Lots of good folks there and lots of 'em shoot 10 gauges.

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skeettx
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:57 pm  Reply with quote
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I have posted this before, but in looking at my 10 gauge files, this one popped up Smile

Hello,

Just a story to warm my heart. Some years ago, I was acquired by a Grade II L. C. Smith in 10 gauge that was made at the old plant. I feel that she is one of the last hammerless made at the Syracuse plant. She has damascus steel barrels that are beautiful to look at. One day she and I were involved in a gentle warm discussion and she asked me if I would take her duck hunting. I tried to explain that the rules had changed and now steel shot was required and smokeless powder was the norm. She looked at me with that special way that only she can do and said "Please, please." Well, no way that I could say no to "Her Sweetness."

So what is a fella to do. I found 25 Alcan all brass shotshell hulls that take the 57 size primers. I made a sizing die to insure they might fit into her sleek chambers. She was really excited when I showed her the brass hulls. She said she remembered the days when brass and also paper hulls were very common. Wow, is she pretty when she smiles. Now, I found some 1F black powder, and some 10 gauge over shot wads. I also bought some MEC 10 gauge steel wads which I cut off to the correct length to fit into the alcan hulls. I talked it over with her and said I would only be using #3 steel pellets to insure she would not get swollen. She sure did appreciate that. So, I combined the hulls, primers, dipper load of 1F black, cutoff MEC wad, same dipper of #3 steel shot and topped it off with an over shot wad and Elmer's glue around the edge. I did insure the shot volumn was a little smaller that the wad volumn to insure all the shot stayed in the wad during the travel down the barrels. I showed the finished cartridges to her and wow, did she shine with joy. Well now we made a date to go to the duck blind. I was so proud to show her off to my buddies, I mean who would not brag if his special gal would get up and go so early in the morning. Well, here came the test, I caressed her and THEN here came the ducks and it an instant, she was up and spoke with authority and power. Smoke was everywhere, but when it cleared TWO green head mallards were feet up on the water. WHAT A JOY. She has told me things that she has kept in her heart for years. She and I have grown closer and closer. We often just gaze at each other and smile. She does wonder if any of her old girlfriends out there hunt any more. I did assure her that I would find out.

Enjoy the hunt,

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Stick to your day job. You're not cut out for "adult entertainment".

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Sniff, sniff Embarassed

Be gentle, I am ill, bronchitis

But she and I still have a thing for each other Smile
Ducks beware !!

Maine have any 10 gauge old guns??

By the way this week I have been wearing my
Hermon Skeet Club Polar '15 Survivor hat Smile

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case 1775
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lol cool story.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:36 pm  Reply with quote
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10ga Fed hull cut to 2 7/8 "
Fed 209A
23grs International Clays
Rem SP10 wad
1 1/2oz #6 Lead
6 Fold
5 Shots
1176 fps EV 15
10600 psi EV 1300

Also
10ga Remington green hull 2 7/8'
Win 209
24grs Unique
Sp10 + 1 .030osc in bottom of cup
1 3/8 oz Bismuth #6
6 fold
5 shots
1188 fps ev 32
8800 psi ev1000

I have loaded it with #1 Biz no osc


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Upland Carpenter
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:45 pm  Reply with quote
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As F2F suggested, visit the Parker site. I think it was Pete Lester who compiled a list of short 10 loads and has it posted in the reloading sub-forum. Going off memory as its been a long time since I was last on but it should still be there.

Marc

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skeettx,


Man can you spin a story, I loved it! L.C. Smith Pre 13, 10 Gauge ya got to love it.

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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:08 pm  Reply with quote



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If I get the gun I will go and join the Parker site. The load I have right now is 1221 fps at 7,600 psi, a little closer to what I would be comfortable using once the bores pass inspection. Skeet, I will get in touch shortly. Thanks. Story made me smile.

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