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< 16ga. Guns ~ One 16 ga. For all upland hunting? |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:55 pm
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Joined: 19 Nov 2015
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Location: Colorado
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Hi,
I’m a long-time admirer of the 16 gauge, and have owned and hunted with several over the years. Long story short, about 10 years ago I decided to simplify things in terms in terms of all my guns and ammo, and have done most of my shotgunning with a 12 and 20 gauge. I have a Beretta 686 in each gauge and they have served me very well - I use the 12 for prairie pheasants, and the 20 for prairie grouse and quail. The 12 gets a bit heavy during long days of hunting.
I could continue on this way and be reasonably happy except for one thing: my love for and itch for the 16 has never gone away, it has just been suppressed . The good Lord willing I have maybe 10 years of upland hunting left, and I’d like to be toting a nice light 16. The question is, which 16? Two that appeal to me are the Franchi Instinct SL and the Browning A5 sweet 16. They both seem to have favorable reviews and light weight, which appeals to me more and more. They are both in the price range I’m looking at (~ $1500). I’m leaning toward the Franchi as I’m used to and shoot pretty well with o/u’s. I’m open to other suggestions, understanding there are not a lot of choices for 16 o/u’s
Full disclosure: I still own two 16’s - a M37 Ithaca and a Husqvarna 310 s/s. I will probably keep both but I see them as bit players and not my go-to guns for all upland hunting. At this point in my life I think I’d like to find one go-to 16 for all my upland hunting, as noted in the great article below.
https://shootingsportsman.com/sweet-over-unders |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:29 pm
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Joined: 14 Feb 2017
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First trip to South Dakota this year; I took 3 16 gauges. One SxS Fulton, has one Browning Citori and a new Browning Sweet 16. Love the SxS and carried it most of the time but have to admit, as the days wore on, I did carry the Sweet on the long walks. At 5-13, it’s a dream to carry. I will admit a straight stock would make it even better. JM.02$ |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:38 pm
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Joined: 19 Nov 2015
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Location: Colorado
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Hayseed - thanks, you have a nice collection of 16’s there. What Citori 16 do you have, and do you mind my asking what it weighs? |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:54 pm
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Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Kelso, Tennessee
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Obviously those are two very different guns. I can speak for the A-5. It’s a great carrying piece and with the automatic you can shoot heavy loads and it won’t rattle your teeth- something I may caution you on with the double barrels- go too light of a gun weight and shooting heavy loads can be a bit punishing. Good luck |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:02 pm
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Joined: 14 Feb 2017
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Double,
I actually have 9 16’s. 3 SxS, 2 semis, 2 pumps, a single shot and a Browning over under. Some new, most old. It is a Gran Lightning with spectacular grade VI wood. It weighs 7-3. I would love to have a a superlight feather with straight grip at a little over 6 lbs but that isn’t in the near future. The weight of the Citori is not an issue for most hunting. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:05 pm
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Joined: 14 Feb 2017
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Cowdoc, I was pleasantly surprised shooting clays with the new Sweet 16 A5. Recoil was not a issue at all, surprisingly, considering the light weight. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:44 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND
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Citori 16 gauge with 28" barrels. 7 lbs. even and you can use it for clays and upland. |
_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 am
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I finally hit SxS paydirt with my 30" Iside. I'm just locked-in with it on birds. Nice carry weight at 6 lbs. 3 oz., it's living' the 16 gauge dream. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:10 am
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Not to say my others won't get used! |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:36 pm
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:52 pm
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Joined: 18 Jan 2019
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Location: Colorado
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I own the Franchi SL in 16 guage and it is nice to carry in the field, nothing fancy but a great hunting gun that handles well. Add a couple of truelock skeet 1 & 2 and it has served me well on prairie grouse and pheasants and quail. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:46 pm
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Location: The Great Northwet
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You own an Husqvarna 310 16ga and you don't use it? Blasphemy. Those are great guns.
Man, instead of spending $1500 on a new gun, I would send that off to Briley and have chokes put in it, or open it to ic/full, and use that for everything that flies. Done. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:59 pm
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Joined: 09 Mar 2016
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Location: Mn.
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double trigger wrote: |
I’m open to other suggestions, understanding there are not a lot of choices for 16 o/u’s
At this point in my life I think I’d like to find one go-to 16 for all my upland hunting, as noted in the great article below.
https://shootingsportsman.com/sweet-over-unders
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The FAIR guns in the article you linked would be my choice. FAIR first came in the US through NEA and I have a 16 ga. with 28" and 30" bbls.
I use the 30" for clays and if I used a 16 for pheasants would also use it for that. But I use the 28" for grouse from time to time.
IFG is the importer and can set you up with a dealer. Or ship to your FFL holder.
http://www.italianfirearmsgroup.com/
I would take the FAIR over the Franchi, personal preference. I use my Ithaca 37's a lot for grouse hunting also.
But if heaven forbid I was limited to one 16 ga. it would be my A5 Sweet 16, hands down. Mine is heavily modified for grouse. But a factory unmolested new 26" A5 Sweet 16 would handle all upland duties plus clays the best. For me. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:22 pm
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Location: Topeka, Kansas
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Concur with the sentiment I could never live with just one 16, and I have not. I think I am currently at 10 or 11 16ga Guns. Though I use two of them 95% of the time (both 6 lb guns)
At minimum I believe in a battery set of one light 16 (5 1/2 - 5 3/4) two medium weight (6lbs) A primary and back-up (back up is both an extra in case the primary medium weight breaks and possibly a rainy day gone for bad weather. Although the two medium weight could also be a matched pair. Finally. Heavyweight 16 (6 3/4 to 7 lbs) for duck loads and clay target shooting.
All that said if I had to have only one gun it would be a 6-6 1/2 lbs gun with choke tubes. A Citori or Rizzini if O/U, a fox if American boxlock, or a Brit BLE/SLE. I note that if you are really stuck on one gun it is better to buy a more modern gun that will tolerate the heavier modern pressures. Note if going to a single gun a multi barrel set can help expand the base capabilities, I.e. a set of 27in and 30 inch
The only truly Heavyweight Pressure vintage gun I would recommend is a Winchester M21. I have a 21 with straight grip and splinter forend that weighs in under 7lbs though once balance out with some stock drilling it feels lighter than that. Unfortunately it is one of the only 2 12ga guns I own, but in 16 a 6 1/2 to 7 pound 16 capable of handling any modern shell could be found
Ultimately having a primary or single gun battery is possible, but one gun is a compromise at one extreme or the other. |
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:16 pm
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Joined: 19 Nov 2015
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Location: Colorado
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MSM2019 wrote: |
Citori 16 gauge with 28" barrels. 7 lbs. even and you can use it for clays and upland.
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Thanks - I would consider a Citori, which flavor do have? |
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