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gjw
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:17 pm  Reply with quote



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Hi all, I have a classic A5 from the 1950's up for sale. This gun was made by FN in 1952 (X preface SN). This one has a Deluxe Poly Choke (so you know it's a 50's gun).

The gun functions perfectly, no mechanical issues. Has some varnish coming of the stock with some dings and dents. Bluing is very good, no rust or dents, bore is mirror.

Overall, the gun is in very good condition. Here are the specs on her:

27 1/2" barrel
LOP: 13 3/4"
DAH: 2 1/4"
DAC: 1 1/2"
Netural cast
Weight: 7lbs 15oz
2 3/4" Chamber

Asking $500.00 and $35.00 Shipping

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks for looking!

Greg























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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:34 pm  Reply with quote



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Nice gun. Where are you located in ND?

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gjw
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:40 pm  Reply with quote



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win7stw wrote:
Nice gun. Where are you located in ND?


Hey, I live in a small farm town 16 miles south of Mandan off Hwy 6.

Thanks for the kind words BTW.

Greg

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North Dakota? Since 1950? I get giddy just thinking of all the birds that thing has brought down over the years.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:10 pm  Reply with quote



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Why do you think your gun is a Sweet 16 instead of a Standard 16?

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Beautiful gun. I’m sure if it could talk it would have some stories...

But correct me if Im wrong shouldn’t “sweet 16” be engraved above the browning logo? There’s also no gold trigger. Are you sure you have a sweet? It appears to me to be a regular 16 ga.

Beautiful gun anyhow. Good luck with the sale.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:01 pm  Reply with quote



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SweetAndNot16 wrote:
Beautiful gun. I’m sure if it could talk it would have some stories...

But correct me if Im wrong shouldn’t “sweet 16” be engraved above the browning logo? There’s also no gold trigger. Are you sure you have a sweet? It appears to me to be a regular 16 ga.

Beautiful gun anyhow. Good luck with the sale.


Thanks for the kind words. Here's the info I researched on the "X" prefix SN's:

"1947 Post war Belgium made “X Prefix Series.” No serial number distinction between the Sweet 16 and the Standard 16 gauge A5. This is the “unmarked” Browning, era of the Sweet Sixteen.

These are among the rarest of the A5 Sweet Sixteen but are priced as standard 16 gauge A5s in value guides. This is the first year of standard production of the 2 ¾ inch chambered 16 gauge. It is also the last year of the non-engraved sweet sixteen. The popularity and success of the Sweet Sixteen from 1937 through 1947 earned it a permanent place in Browning marketing as the 1948 engraved “Sweet Sixteen.” 1947 is also the only year the 3 shot 2 ¾ 16ga was marketed in the USA. Getting one of these extremely rare original factory issued guns at a standard gun price is a trophy in itself.

1947 – 1953 “X Prefix Series”
1947: X1001 - X13666
1948: X13667 - X23501
1949: X23502 – X34600
1950: X34601 – X43700
1951: X43701 – X59400
1952: X59401 - X77700
1953: X77701 – X99999"

Based on the above, I think it is a Sweet 16.

Hope this helps

Thanks again!

Greg

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win7stw
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:05 am  Reply with quote



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Greg I am almost positive your gun is a standard weight 16. If it was a sweet it would have a gold plated trigger. The barrel ring should have three holes in it if it’s a sweet. Also there should be some metal milled out on the sides of the receiver. If you push the carrier down you can see if yours has or not. From your pics it doesn’t appear that it has.

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gjw
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:20 am  Reply with quote



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win7stw wrote:
Greg I am almost positive your gun is a standard weight 16. If it was a sweet it would have a gold plated trigger. The barrel ring should have three holes in it if it’s a sweet. Also there should be some metal milled out on the sides of the receiver. If you push the carrier down you can see if yours has or not. From your pics it doesn’t appear that it has.


I shall bow to your expertise on this one. I'm not an Auto guy, so if you say it's a Standard weight, then it is. I'll change my post to reflect that.

Thanks for the info, you learn something new every day!

Stay well, and hope for some rain (not like last year however!).

Best,

Greg

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:52 am  Reply with quote



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New Price to reflect Standard Grade - $500 plus $35 shipping

Thanks!

Greg


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Quick way to tell the difference on the X marked guns

Sweet X

Standard X

Barrel difference

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:13 am  Reply with quote



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Excellent reference pictures, win7stw. I never liked to go by the gold trigger alone, but the cuts inside the receiver are easy to check.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 6:52 am  Reply with quote



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I concur with the info below. My '47 vintage (noted in signature) was confirmed by telephone call w/ the Browning Historian. The x-prefix and half-moon milling cuts inside the receiver would confirm it as an early and unmarked Sweet Sixteen. Pretty good deal at the advertised price.
Cheers to the lucky buyer,
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gjw wrote:

"1947 Post war Belgium made “X Prefix Series.” No serial number distinction between the Sweet 16 and the Standard 16 gauge A5. This is the “unmarked” Browning, era of the Sweet Sixteen.

These are among the rarest of the A5 Sweet Sixteen but are priced as standard 16 gauge A5s in value guides. This is the first year of standard production of the 2 ¾ inch chambered 16 gauge. It is also the last year of the non-engraved sweet sixteen. The popularity and success of the Sweet Sixteen from 1937 through 1947 earned it a permanent place in Browning marketing as the 1948 engraved “Sweet Sixteen.” 1947 is also the only year the 3 shot 2 ¾ 16ga was marketed in the USA. Getting one of these extremely rare original factory issued guns at a standard gun price is a trophy in itself.

1947 – 1953 “X Prefix Series”
1947: X1001 - X13666
1948: X13667 - X23501
1949: X23502 – X34600
1950: X34601 – X43700
1951: X43701 – X59400
1952: X59401 - X77700
1953: X77701 – X99999"

Based on the above, I think it is a Sweet 16.

Hope this helps

Thanks again!

Greg

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 7:32 am  Reply with quote



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JPM98VMI wrote:
I concur with the info below. My '47 vintage (noted in signature) was confirmed by telephone call w/ the Browning Historian. The x-prefix and half-moon milling cuts inside the receiver would confirm it as an early and unmarked Sweet Sixteen. Pretty good deal at the advertised price.
Cheers to the lucky buyer,
jpm

gjw wrote:

"1947 Post war Belgium made “X Prefix Series.” No serial number distinction between the Sweet 16 and the Standard 16 gauge A5. This is the “unmarked” Browning, era of the Sweet Sixteen.

These are among the rarest of the A5 Sweet Sixteen but are priced as standard 16 gauge A5s in value guides. This is the first year of standard production of the 2 ¾ inch chambered 16 gauge. It is also the last year of the non-engraved sweet sixteen. The popularity and success of the Sweet Sixteen from 1937 through 1947 earned it a permanent place in Browning marketing as the 1948 engraved “Sweet Sixteen.” 1947 is also the only year the 3 shot 2 ¾ 16ga was marketed in the USA. Getting one of these extremely rare original factory issued guns at a standard gun price is a trophy in itself.

1947 – 1953 “X Prefix Series”
1947: X1001 - X13666
1948: X13667 - X23501
1949: X23502 – X34600
1950: X34601 – X43700
1951: X43701 – X59400
1952: X59401 - X77700
1953: X77701 – X99999"

Based on the above, I think it is a Sweet 16.

Hope this helps

Thanks again!

Greg


This gun is a standard weight

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:58 am  Reply with quote



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Win7stw is absolutely correct. I collect A5 16's.. I have a 65, 59 , 56, 52, 47standard, and a 39 unmarked " stealth" sweet sixteen. My standard does not have the following: gold trigger, cut outs inside the receiver, holes in barrel ring , or a hollowed out stock. ALL of the sweet 16s have ALL of these features

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