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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Nice 2 1/2" 1oz Field Reload |
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:22 pm
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1oz Shot 26.6gr IMR Blue W209 Rem SP16 7,200PSI 1,220fps
I loaded some of these today but used Alliant Blue Dot since the powders are interchangeable by weight. They make a very nice shot shell with the proper volume for fold crimp hulls. I reloaded some RST(Cheddite) hulls with this Hodgdon data.
I have a good quantity if the SP16 wads but never used them since I don't shoot 1 1/8oz 16ga shells. I'm pretty stoked to find this so thought I would share. |
Last edited by Purple16 on Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:16 pm
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| How much shot did you load? |
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:29 pm
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| Ha! Forgot that 1 ounce |
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:42 pm
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:59 pm
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Very promising load. 1 oz 2 1/2” loads are in high demand right now. I use a similar load with 800X but a sound alternative, and possibly superior load is always welcome nowadays.
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:14 am
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| That looks like a great load. Is it a published load recipe or one you have had tested? I wonder how the SG16 wad would affect pressure, velocity, and the stack height with 1 oz of shot. I have more SG16 wads than the Rem SP16. |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:46 am
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It is published in the Hodgdon Load Data site.
The SG16 won't work in 2 1/2" hulls because it takes up more space. A load for the SG16 is also there but would work in 2 3/4". I think it is 200psi difference in pressure. |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:58 am
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Two Barrels,
If you substitute the SG16 for the SP16, the pressure will go up. Awhile back I had a similar thought using 800-X and had a load tested the pressure went up over 3,000 PSI. The original load was 9,800 PSI the tested load was 13,100 PSI.
Of course this was one test, so YMMV. Just use your head.
The only hull that substituting the SG16 for the SP16 may work in is the Remington. But Federal, Cheddite, RIO, etc hulls are going to produce much different ballisitics between the SP16 and the SG16 wads.
Dig a bit further into the Hodgdon data. |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:19 am
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Purple 16,
Where is the original data listed? |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:07 am
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Hodgdon Data PUT A BEAD ON SHOTGUN RELOADING DATA
16ga
Winchester 2 3/4" X-Pert Plastic Hulls
SHELL
16 GA 2 3/4"
ADD SHELL
STEP 1
GAUGE
STEP 2
SHELL
STEP 3
LOAD TYPE
Lead Shot
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STEP 4
SHOT WEIGHT
1 oz.
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STEP 5
MANUFACTURER
IMR
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POWDER
IMR Blue
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GAUGE: 16
Lead Shot 1 oz.
Manufacturer Powder
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M BP/SPTG16 25.1 6,500 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M BP/SPTG16 26.7 7,200 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M BP/SPTG16 28.4 8,000 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M BP/SPTG16 29.1 8,300 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M CB 0100-16 24.7 6,800 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M CB 0100-16 26.3 7,600 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M CB 0100-16 27.9 8,400 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M CB 0100-16 28.6 8,800 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M Rem. SP16 24.9 6,400 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M Rem. SP16 26.5 7,100 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M Rem. SP16 28.2 7,900 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue CCI 209M Rem. SP16 28.9 8,200 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A BP/SPTG16 24.4 6,900 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A BP/SPTG16 26.0 7,700 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A BP/SPTG16 27.7 8,400 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A BP/SPTG16 28.4 8,800 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A CB 0100-16 23.6 7,300 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A CB 0100-16 25.2 8,100 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A CB 0100-16 26.9 8,900 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A CB 0100-16 27.6 9,300 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A Rem. SP16 23.6 6,600 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A Rem. SP16 25.2 7,500 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A Rem. SP16 26.8 8,400 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Fed. 209A Rem. SP16 27.5 8,800 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P BP/SPTG16 25.1 6,400 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P BP/SPTG16 26.7 7,200 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P BP/SPTG16 28.4 8,000 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P BP/SPTG16 29.1 8,400 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P CB 0100-16 24.8 6,900 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P CB 0100-16 26.5 7,600 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P CB 0100-16 28.1 8,300 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P CB 0100-16 28.9 8,600 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P Rem. SP16 25.0 6,400 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P Rem. SP16 26.6 7,100 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P Rem. SP16 28.3 7,800 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Rem. 209P Rem. SP16 29.0 8,100 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 BP/SPTG16 25.1 6,600 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 BP/SPTG16 26.7 7,400 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 BP/SPTG16 28.4 8,200 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 BP/SPTG16 29.1 8,600 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 CB 0100-16 24.7 7,000 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 CB 0100-16 26.3 7,800 PSI 1,220
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 CB 0100-16 27.9 8,600 PSI 1,275
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 CB 0100-16 28.6 9,000 PSI 1,300
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 Rem. SP16 25.0 6,500 PSI 1,165
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IMR IMR Blue Win. 209 Rem. SP16 26.6 7,200 PSI 1,220[/b] |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:42 am
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| Thanks!! |
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:29 pm
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I switched to using CCI 209M primer loads from W209. Getting a little better burn from the Blue.
Blue is not as clean burning as I had expected to see. Blue Dot and Blue are both similar burn. |
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:21 am
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| More than likely a little dirty because the pressure is not high enough for a clean burn . |
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:01 pm
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| fn16ga wrote: |
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More than likely a little dirty because the pressure is not high enough for a clean burn .
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True on that. It would not ordinarily be my first choice of powder but the attributes of the shot weight, velocity, pressure for older guns and nicely reloaded shell make it desirable to me. I swab out my barrels after each day hunting so not a deal breaker. |
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:06 pm
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| Ya wouldn't be a deal breaker me . |
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