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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Standard 16g load pressure |
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:00 pm
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| So what do you think the maximum pressure should be for shooting in most American classic doubles? Like my Sterlingworth, for instance? |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:13 pm
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| Just found Fin's post which was the day before I left for Guatemala. Excellent question for many of us who shoot classic SXSs and the answer depends on the gun and year of production. Certainly about any post 1920s action can handle a chamber pressure of 10,000 psi. I had no concerns using the Federal 1 oz Game Shok at 1165 in my Savage Sterly. BUT, another appropriate question is 'Can my maybe 90 years old wood handle the recoil?' Since sweet Elsies are a bit...uh...delicate...my usual clays load is 7/8 oz. I've got my 1911 00E with Dan Lammers right now having the head of the stock glass bedded and intend to use the 7/8 oz loads for quail but the excellent Eley Grand Prix 15/16 oz at 1225 next fall for pheasant. And I'd use the B&P F2 Classic 1 1/16 without reservation in a Sterly or Trojan. |
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:50 am
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Drew,
Any more information to share? |
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Tue May 15, 2007 5:46 pm
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Wed May 16, 2007 11:14 am
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Popski, I also cntacted RST about their 20 ga 2 1/2" shells. Looking for some low pressure. This is the answer I got. Our lowest pressure is 20 Ga.paper 2 1/2" @ 8000 psi.
The plastic are around 10,000 psi
The case can be mixed.
Alex
I can't believe that the 16 ga is that low compared to the 20 ga. The 16 ga. is what I would want in the 20 ga.
Polywads has Vintagers in 2 1/2" for $85.00 a case of 250 |
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Wed May 16, 2007 11:23 am
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There is 20 gauge load data, on the Hodgdon website.
Using the 2-3/4" Federal hull, that is in the 7500 to 8000 PSI range.
I plan on shooting these loads in my Damascus barreled Parker 20 gauge.
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Wed May 23, 2007 5:05 am
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I placed an order with RST this week and also emailed them for pressure and velocity information on the mixed order I sent. I wonder if they may have changed their recipe recently to meet the demands of the LP crowd. My response was also from Alex Papp.
Mark,
12Ga. 2 1/2" Lite 1oz. Vel. 1136 - PSI. 6800
16Ga. " 1oz. 1145 6500
16Ga. " 7/8oz. 1100 6300
Thank you for your order
Alex
I'm kind of curious of the discrepancies between the info that was given to others. Has the PSI come down or was there an error in some of the emails? |
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Hi, folks! Great thread. I've been on another forum looking for this kind of information for some time, and now (after a long absence) I come back here and find it all at my fingertips. Please keep updating it.
I just bought an old N. R. Davis 16-gauge SxS. It looks to have 2 3/4" chambers, but I think, after reading everything here, that I'll send off an order to RST for some of their 2 1/2" shells.
Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.) |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:48 am
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Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.)[/quote]
If that Browning has never been shot, she might be full of bugs and all kinds of weird things. Maybe you should send it to me, I would want you getting hurt, with those nasty old guns. |
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Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.)
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If that Browning has never been shot, she might be full of bugs and all kinds of weird things. Maybe you should send it to me, I would want you getting hurt, with those nasty old guns. [/quote]
It has extra-fancy wood, too  |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:35 am
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Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.)
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If that Browning has never been shot, she might be full of bugs and all kinds of weird things. Maybe you should send it to me, I would want you getting hurt, with those nasty old guns.
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It has extra-fancy wood, too [/quote]
Oh man, don't rub it in.
In all honesty, if you decide to part with it, please contact me.
Buying those short shells can get expensive, and you don't want to open the chamber on that girl. |
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| Dave M. wrote: |
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Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.)
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If that Browning has never been shot, she might be full of bugs and all kinds of weird things. Maybe you should send it to me, I would want you getting hurt, with those nasty old guns.
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Oh man, don't rub it in.
In all honesty, if you decide to part with it, please contact me.
Buying those short shells can get expensive, and you don't want to open the chamber on that girl.[/quote]
Well, I would consider doing that. The gun is so darn pretty, I can't bear to shoot it. External blue is 100%, that deep mirror-like blue that craftsmen imparted back in the 1920's. The stock, I think, is a replacement, as it has a grind-to-fit recoil pad and no checkering; but the wood is exhibition quality. The bolt face shows no evidence of ever having contacted powder or primer. This gun was probably the previous owner's "safe queen".
I don't shoot it, mainly, because the stock doesn't fit me. I take a lot of drop at heel and it only has about 2" drop at heel. I bought it on an internet auction from a pawn broker who didn't have any idea what "drop" and "pull" meant. He had placed it in a C&R category, and I was the only one who bid on it; I got it for quite a bit less than it was worth. When I opened the box I couldn't believe what I had.  |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:20 pm
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| Gordonstoun wrote: |
Anybody here have any experience using these in older Browning autoloaders? I have one with a 2 9/16" chamber. (The gun looks like it's never been shot...I've never shot it.)
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I shoot 5-stand a couple of times per month with my Auto 5 16 ga. 1910 model. I use the 1oz 2 1/2" RST's and have been very pleased.
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