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John1
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:03 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 21 Mar 2019
Posts: 45

Sorry if this has been covered but what would be a good alternative to Universal? 1 oz. Load and 16 gauge of course.

Thanks, John.
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Brewster11
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:52 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 08 Feb 2009
Posts: 1310
Location: Western WA

I’m not recommending this to anyone, but if it were me, I would be content with any powder labeled ‘shotgun’. 1 oz is the very heart of the 16 ga load envelope, and there are published or tested 1 oz 16 ga recipes for virtually every shotgun powder out there, from very fast powders like Red Dot to slow powders like Longshot and Steel.

I would favor a powder somewhere in the middle between those extremes.

All the Best,
B.
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MSM2019
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:20 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND

John1,

If you can find it Unique is the closest thing to Universal and those two powders just about duplicate each other in most applications. WSF and 20/28 should work well too, but there just isn't a lot of data for either powder in the 16.

There are some loads from BPI on the spreadsheets, but a lot of it is out in left field somewhere and not sure I would trust it unless it was retested by a competent lab, it just does not look correct.

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MSM2019
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:56 am  Reply with quote



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BTW, when WSF was introduced, Winchester was still making the 16 ga. compression formed hulls and there was data for those hulls. I used this data when those hulls were plentiful, killed a lot of pigeons and broke a lot of skeet targets with the 1 oz. loads. Here it is:



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