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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Mec short kit 16ga 2 3/4 to 2 1/2 |
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Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:12 am
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
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Anyone try this before? Your just put this "Plate" on the press that fits over the pre & crimp stations & it allows you to now load 2 1/2" hulls. Seems that easy, fold crimps you have going for your standard 2 3/4" hulls will work now. Is it that easy ? |
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Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:39 am
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Joined: 30 Sep 2019
Posts: 145
Location: Colorado
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That’s pretty much it. I’ve used one for years on my 600 Jr.
Even made one for my second 600. |
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Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:05 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
Posts: 1841
Location: Central ND
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They work well. Even cuts down on adjustments with many loads. |
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Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:34 am
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
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Thanks guys. I guess thats a purchase then. My new hunting buddy has a 16 short chamber SxS thats been laid up for awhile; NO ammo available. I got a 16 Sizemaster. |
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Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:03 pm
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Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Posts: 371
Location: mpls mn
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I have made several with 1/4 " aluminum plates very easy fabrication project
Trace the base, mark holes, cut it with a jig saw drill and tap holes its 1/4 20 threads
sand the edges with a belt or disc sander and install 30 minute project if you can find your tools!
I always wondered why nobody drills and taps the center post to get the adjustment height. That's what mec does to adjust between 3" and 2 3/4 inch ammunition for 12 20 and 410 |
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Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:26 am
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Joined: 24 Jun 2013
Posts: 2067
Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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still use a pile of change - that allows me any change needed shell tp shell . Have loaded a PILE this way . |
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Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:23 pm
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
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"still use a pile of change - that allows me any change needed shell tp shell . Have loaded a PILE this way ".
hahahah... read in some other blogs about that. Another guy used a quarter with a penny on top. American ingenuity hahah |
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Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:35 am
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2347
Location: West MI
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16gaDavis wrote: |
still use a pile of change - that allows me any change needed shell tp shell . Have loaded a PILE this way .
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This and/or a couple washers get the job done for me. The taped together mound of washers for my 2.5" 10ga target reloads is comical to look at but works great in the MEC. |
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Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:03 am
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Joined: 07 Sep 2011
Posts: 567
Location: wheeling, wv
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Short kit doesnt seem to be gauge specific--I can rotate it between my 12, 16, and 20 600jr. |
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Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:00 pm
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Joined: 27 Sep 2015
Posts: 177
Location: Alabama
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I've got one, works great. I've tried the washers, quarters, they work too, but this was best for me. |
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Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:37 pm
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
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hahahh. For S&Gs, tried the "pile of change", aka 1 US quarter on bottom with a similar size holed washer on top. Perfect height attained and folded up 3 test loads for my buddy. As stated, slow, but he's not after making/a very large stash.
He has a small amount of RST hulls, which will have to do for awhile since both BP & PR are out of stock on 2 1/2s for awhile. I was going to suggest he get a hull trimmer and use some 2 3/4 hulls. But if we went that route, would I still be able to use a super crown crimp starter to get the new pre-crimp? To do that, doesn't the hull have to be skived to form a new crimp ? I already have an 8pt. Does it really matter 8pt vs 6pt? |
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Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:59 pm
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Joined: 02 Feb 2007
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Location: mpls mn
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I cut all my hull on a table saw with a v-block mounted on the mitre gage.Works very well and is fast and accurate
As for skiving hull I bought a cone shaped carborundum bit at the local Ace hardware mounted it in a drill press and skive away i get very good results with both |
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Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:47 pm
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Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: Columbia, SC
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probie wrote: |
He has a small amount of RST hulls, which will have to do for awhile since both BP & PR are out of stock on 2 1/2s for awhile. I was going to suggest he get a hull trimmer and use some 2 3/4 hulls. But if we went that route, would I still be able to use a super crown crimp starter to get the new pre-crimp?
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I no longer reload due to lack of space in our retirement apartment but loaded for 44 years before moving. I used a homemade cutter made from a dowel, Exacto blade and round head screw for adjustment. I crimped the cut down hulls with a standard MEC plastic 6 point crimp starter and did not skive the hulls. The resulting loads as tested by Tom Armbrust were the same as loads made in RST 2 1/2 hulls.
Don't make more work than necessary.
I used the MEC short kit because it allowed switching between 2 1/2 and 2 3/4 inch by simply inserting or removing the 1/4 inch baseplate. |
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Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:46 am
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Joined: 27 Oct 2017
Posts: 80
Location: Joliet, IL
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I don't know whether it's a problem particular to my press, or me simply being an idiot. In any case I could not get the MEC short kit to work at all on my press for 65mm hulls. It crushed every hull and did not have the adjustment range to stop crushing hulls.
I fabbed a new plate out of 1/8" AL plate with a skilsaw and a file, and it worked beautifully from jumpstreet with modest crimp station adjustment. |
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Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:24 pm
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 1973
Location: Maine
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I am looking for a 6 point crimp starter to fit on a MEC Super 250 I picked up for the "best" price - free. It came with an 8 pointer. The Cheddite hulls I have are all once fired, 6 pointers and mixing 6s and 8s doesn't seem to work.
I now have 5 short-chambered guns - 2 @12ga, 2 @ 16, 1 @ 20. The RST ammo I've hoarded is way too expensive/precious to shoot at anything other than game. The loads I've found for short shells start with a Cheddite hull most of the time, thus I need to be able to crimp 6 pointers.
With a homemade short kit this Super 250 will make it possible for me to roll my own for these guns. The one 12, I bought shortly before Christmas and haven't shot at all.
So, I'm wondering: will the crimp starters MEC sells today fit on one of the old Super 250?
As an aside, I'm using a hull trimmer made by Byrdog to cut the hulls to length. It works great. I know he hasn't been heard from in some time. If someone has his real name and is willing to share, I'll do some Maine detective work to try to find out what's up. PM me. |
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