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Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2349 Location: West MI

Anyone here familiar with this load? Poking around for interesting Turkey load ideas and this seems as though it might be a nice load through the correct choke.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002141657?pid=574647

Shouldn't be too difficult to mimic hand loaded.

Joined: 09 Mar 2016 Posts: 754 Location: Mn.

They are hard to come by and during Covid Federal didn't make a run of them. Some pheasant hunters were screaming as they are a fan favorite with some.

I posted the availability of them on another site a month ago Scheels has the #6 for sale and still do at $15 a box. They normally run $35 a box from Federal, when they have them.

https://www.scheels.com/p/federal-premium-upland-pheasants-forever-high-velocity-16-gauge-shotshells/02946502692.html?irclickid=X3Ixu2XsmxyITOSSA43kISNpUkAync1uxT2ixQ0&irgwc=1&utm_campaign=13422&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_src=AmmoSeek

The Midway description is the old box\load, not sure if that is what they are actually selling. Federal makes them in 4, 5 and 6 shot.

Savage16 is the expert on the PF super duper high speed loads and the different variants over the years.

Precision Reloading does have some 1 1/8 oz. loads in the 1350 fps range for lead using Blue Dot and Longshot. But I don't ever recall seeing data faster than that for lead anywhere. But really haven't looked for anything faster than that either.

Joined: 04 Nov 2019 Posts: 76 Location: Wyoming

I may be wrong, but I think the "new" load is not buffered

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2349 Location: West MI

Thanks for the info, $15 is not bad all things considered, following the link to Scheels I couldn't see if those were buffered or not.

Loaded up a few shells from the Spread Sheets Ched tab shared by Bowbuilder, 1.25oz #4 LS + buffer (subbed in Proreach & PSB) and found a box of PMC 1.125oz 1425 #5's on my shelf and off to the range with a BPS & 870 patterned at 38 paces yesterday through Trulock and Colonial tubes. Haven't done any counting yet but a few of the patterns from a 0.600" Trulock Turkey choke look devastating with a bunch of tightly packed evenly spread little holes in an imaginary ~14" circle, can't see how anything could run away after any of those swarm's had interrupted their day.

Member Joined: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 1696 Location: Minnesota

Savage16 is the expert on the PF super duper high speed loads and the different variants over the years.
I think I know where you pulled that out of Wink

I do have a box each of the last iteration of the box and also the current. Each have pheasants forever emblems and mention copper plated shot. 1425fps and the old version also states 3 7/8dram. Nothing about buffering on either. Both show the same load code of PF163 and then the shot size.

Joined: 18 Jun 2019 Posts: 1 Location: United States

Federal's website does not mention buffering nor does the box I have on hand.

Joined: 26 Apr 2016 Posts: 369 Location: Vermont

Got a whole case of them in South Dakota from a guy at Cabalas talking to Scott Linden. I jokingly said to Scott will these 16's work showed him a couple boxes(fiocchi GF) the guy heard me and said he just sold his 16 you want some shells?. I got a case of those and 4 boxes of Kent bismuth 5's
for $100.00.
I can tell you they stone wild pheasants far out. I would not hesitate to use them on turkeys. I never patterned them though.

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2349 Location: West MI

Lucky dog, in the right place at the right time, good on you. Got it, good Pheasant and don't think twice Gobbler medicine, thanks!

Appreciate all the input. Also went on Fed site and no evidence of these having buffer. + looking close at the "old" box on Midway' site doesn't say buffered, wondering if Midway posted a typo....

Joined: 09 Mar 2016 Posts: 754 Location: Mn.

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2349 Location: West MI

You're welcome, I guess?? Rolling Eyes

Holy cow, Federal has a 16ga Flight Control wad, did not know that! I NEED some! Need to find the contact info for that guy that demill's Fed 2nds and sells the components? My new best friend....