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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:04 am  Reply with quote



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A while back someone wanted to know if there were any published loads foe a 1-3/8 load. I new I seen one some place and I ran across it on one of the spreadsheets I have.
If theirs still interest in it I will put it on here or pm the load to whom may want it. It's 1250 fps and approaching max pressures using steel powder.
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putz463
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:15 am  Reply with quote
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If lead, yes, I'd like to see it please.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:50 am  Reply with quote
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Me too , please post it and the source. Thanks!
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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 pm  Reply with quote



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Hull- BP Multi OVL- 2 3/4 Load-1 3/8 Powder- Steel Chrg- 25gr Wad- mm16. PSI. 11300 FPS- 1350
Remarks, approaching SAAMI pressure _/4 slits, nickleplated#6 mica dust wad. Ref. BPI

I don't know how accurate BPI happens to be but from what I've read in the past the info seems to be some what questionable
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putz463
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:19 pm  Reply with quote
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Thanks for posting the recipe. I'm a skeptic regarding BPI data in general, but, in this instance it seems from referencing my testing data developing a 1.375oz Bis load dovetailing off 16gaDavis' BlueDot 1.375 bunkerbuster, one load sent in with 27g ASteel proved WAY over pressure and one sent in w/23g ASteel came in well under pressure I settled on a charge between these 2 extremes but haven't sent it in for testing yet. So, intuitively it seems to me that this BPI data is plausible.

Again, thanks for posting.

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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:58 pm  Reply with quote



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putz463 wrote:
Thanks for posting the recipe. I'm a skeptic regarding BPI data in general, but, in this instance it seems from referencing my testing data developing a 1.375oz Bis load dovetailing off 16gaDavis' BlueDot 1.375 bunkerbuster, one load sent in with 27g ASteel proved WAY over pressure and one sent in w/23g ASteel came in well under pressure I settled on a charge between these 2 extremes but haven't sent it in for testing yet. So, intuitively it seems to me that this BPI data is plausible.

Again, thanks for posting.


Putz. We're you able to get a fps from a chronograph. I'd be very interested to know the pressure and fps on the one your settling on between.
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browningsweet161977
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:20 pm  Reply with quote
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Is the mm16 wad the 1680 wad?

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putz463
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:49 am  Reply with quote
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Depends....It's my understanding that the MM16=VP80=PT1680 and BPI claims the BP1680 is different. It seems to be a little different at least for this IMO mild early season in the dekes load. Saw similar differences in my 10ga loads with the "new" wads made onshore. Had to tweak/retest a couple of them, woohoo.

Sent 5ea to PR for testing; Ched once fired, Ched209, 25.5 Asteel, *Wad, 24ga OSC, 7/8 #5 steel, 6 fold.

* PT1680;
1434fps, SD20 , EV43
10982psi, SD518, EV1420
* BP1680;
1463, 11, 31
9898, 787, 1710

Hammer Bill, I have not tested the compromise load, albeit it has a different wad in it than the one above. Truth be told, I did pattern it with 1 3/8oz of BPI BB Biz through several guns and chokes but never could get it to pattern as well as MSM2019' 1 1/8oz Bis load w/buffer. The pattern averages in a 20" circle were more or less the same out to 40y+ so figured why keep "wasting" the extra pellets and powder when, in this go round, less turned out to be more all things considered. If/when I do test it for closure sake, I will share, but it's a chore to assemble, kinda 6lbs of potatoes in a 5lb bucket sorta thing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:31 am  Reply with quote



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I’ll b passing on any BPI load data.
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