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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Thoughts on powder/loads? |
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:40 am
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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Location: Tennessee
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I have loaded 16 ga for doves for quite a few years with a variety of powders including Unique, 473, 540 and WSF. Most loads have been around 1220 fps with 1 oz of shot. I have used these in both a Model 12 and a 1940’s era LC Smith field grade with 2 3/4” chambers. Ii’d like to start loading a little lighter shell (1,165 fps) for Sporting Clays and also be able to use it for doves in the LC Smith.
Currently I have WSF, Unique, Clays and 700x powders and Winchester and Cheddite 209 primers. My hulls are the old style Winchester compression formed but I also have a supply of Federal hulls. I have both WAA16 and SP16 wads.
I would like to hear some members thoughts about reloading these powders and if one seems to work better than the other for my purpose. I’d also like to know about any 7/8 oz loads that might work with these components. |
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:51 am
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Joined: 24 Jun 2013
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Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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look for Rem wads . Our big auction house here has 6 bags of them with zero bids . They are made for Taper cases . Dr's , roo hard to find . G-wads - too big of diameter and really hard to load . Check out Mark's thread on 7/8 and use the 700X loads and drop back a grain or 2 for your cases . Just get some 28ga fiber wads to fill the wad for the correct shot height for crimping . |
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:58 am
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16gaDavis wrote: |
lppk for Rem wads . Our big auction house here has 6 bags of them with zero bids . They are made for Taper cases . Dr's , roo hard to find . G-wads - too big of diameter and really hard to load . Check out Mark's thread on 7/8 and use the 700X loads and drop back a grain or 2 for your cases . Just get some 28ga fiber wads to fill the wad for the correct shot height for crimping .
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I would follow along with Mark. Like the 700x. |
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:12 pm
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WW CF 1 oz. Unique 19.0 Win 209 WAA16 1165 9,200 Alliant 1998 |
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:52 pm
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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Location: Tennessee
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I saw that Unique load in one of my manuals. Have you loaded that?- I guess what I’d really like to know is opinions on WSF vs Unique. Is there an advantage to one over the other?
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Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:44 pm
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Location: Central ND
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I like Unique better than WSF, mostly because it doesn't dribble out of the bottom of the charge bar and it is bulky enough to give good wad column heights with the wads we have available. There is also more good data for Unique than WSF.
Performance wise, I don't see any difference. |
_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:04 am
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If you can't find or don't have any WAA16 wads, ClayBuster CB0100-16 & CB0078-16 wads are clones of the WAA wads and work in the Win Comp & smaller ID RGL hulls. |
_________________ Sorry, I'm a Duck Hunter so shouldn't be held strictly responsible for my actions between Oct 1st and ice up. |
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Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:16 am
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Yes, I have used that load. I like it. |
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Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:39 am
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Have shot that load for years for desert quail and doves but with 19.5 gr of Unique. Chronos 1200 fps and pressure is right at 10K psi. Found the load in a manual but don't remember which one. |
_________________ Dennis
Current 16ga. Stable
Browning Citori Gr I
Browning Belgium Sweet 16
A.H. Fox Sterlingworth
Remington 11-48
Remington 31
Remington 870
Geco/J.P. Sauer BLNE
Winchester Mod 12 |
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Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:25 am
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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Location: Tennessee
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Thanks for your feedback. I loaded up several boxes of the 19.0 gun Unique load and plan to shoot Tuesday. Unique metered great and stack height withe the WAA16 was perfect. |
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