16ga.com Forum Index
Author Message
<  16ga. Ammunition & Reloading  ~  20/28 loads
TripleH
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:16 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 172
Location: Michigan

Came across some 20/28, never used it for 16ga loads before. Wondering if anyone has experience with it? I’d like to stick with my usual cheddite hull/primer, sg16 wad, 1oz anywhere from 1150-1250fps.

Saw a few loads on the sheets but the source was BPI….said 20gr with above components for 1,250fps/8,400 psi.

Not always comfortable with their load data from what I read so thought I’d ask.

Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hammer bill
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:53 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 09 Feb 2015
Posts: 848

TripleH wrote:
Came across some 20/28, never used it for 16ga loads before. Wondering if anyone has experience with it? I’d like to stick with my usual cheddite hull/primer, sg16 wad, 1oz anywhere from 1150-1250fps.

Saw a few loads on the sheets but the source was BPI….said 20gr with above components for 1,250fps/8,400 psi.

Not always comfortable with their load data from what I read so thought I’d ask.

Thanks.

I drop 20gr with 26 bushing and 19gr with 25 bushing. Shooting games at trap. 20gr works fine for back fence. Use filler and claybuster wad for 1oz. Bill
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
putz463
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:58 pm  Reply with quote
Member
Member


Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2394
Location: West MI

Although I normally don't feel comfortable sharing BPI generated data, these from the spread sheets are relatively low in stated PSI, so, figuring even if they are "out in left field" PSI wise, w/~3k of head room, feel they are reasonably "safe" to share....use at your own discretion for at the very least... reference.....

Cheddite 1 oz. 20/28 20.0 Ched 209 BPI SG 16 1255 8,400 BPI
Cheddite 1 oz. 20/28 21.0 Ched 209 BPI SG 16 1275 8600 BPI
Cheddite 1 oz. 20/28 22.0 Ched 209 BPI SG 16 1310 8,700 BPI
Cheddite 1 oz. 20/28 24.0 Ched 209 BPI SG 16 1400 9,500 BPI

Adding; it seems to me, since The Cumugion Jr has taken the wheel, the newer/recent data coming from BPI seems more realistic, IMO. But still skeptical....

_________________
Sorry, I'm a Duck Hunter so shouldn't be held strictly responsible for my actions between Oct 1st and ice up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Savage16
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:39 am  Reply with quote
Member
Member


Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1717
Location: Minnesota

Putz463, How is the stack height/crimps if you go down to 18-19 grains to get to about 2 1/2 dram/1165fps?

_________________
Great dog, Great friends,Great guns
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hammer bill
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:09 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 09 Feb 2015
Posts: 848

If you have 20/28 on hand your lucky for awhile. I've been using it for long time now. Psi is great with any of the loads mentioned. Problem now is cost. Sense 20/28 has become very popular now the price is going overboard out of the market. Pushing close to 400.00$ now for 8 ibs. Gun club I mainly shoot at 20/28 was 370.00. I've got 3- 8 lbers I bought last year for 220.00. Already been substituting with 700x, High gun, just to stretch out my 20/28 for few more years if I'm able.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
putz463
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:27 am  Reply with quote
Member
Member


Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2394
Location: West MI

Savage16 wrote:
Putz463, How is the stack height/crimps if you go down to 18-19 grains to get to about 2 1/2 dram/1165fps?


Good question,

2.75" Herters, 18.5gr 20/28, SG16, 1oz #7.5 lead.





Seems as though it would work/shoot fine.

_________________
Sorry, I'm a Duck Hunter so shouldn't be held strictly responsible for my actions between Oct 1st and ice up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
putz463
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:18 am  Reply with quote
Member
Member


Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2394
Location: West MI

Forgot to share; loaded with -0- wad pressure.

_________________
Sorry, I'm a Duck Hunter so shouldn't be held strictly responsible for my actions between Oct 1st and ice up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
biednick
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 10:45 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 03 Aug 2021
Posts: 6

I use one of BPI's 1oz loads, almost certainly one of the ones posted above. 20/28 was available in my area around the time Universal dried up so I started using it. It works great for me. That said, Alliant powder is significantly more expensive than other brands so I'm looking for something else gain. I picked up 8lb of Longshot yesterday for 33/lb compared to 57/lb for 20/28 at the same store.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3birddogs
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 5:00 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 07 Sep 2011
Posts: 573
Location: wheeling, wv

There was a great 7/8 oz low pressure load in the spreadsheets that I will have to look up the particulars. RGL hulls, DR16 wad, and ww or cheddite 209 primer. Also great with 3/4 oz, around 16gr 20/28

_________________
we salute you bird of thunder
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
TripleH
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:25 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 172
Location: Michigan

Just was looking at those 3-bird-interesting combo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3birddogs
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:19 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 07 Sep 2011
Posts: 573
Location: wheeling, wv

Killed many grouse with this load and lots of clays, used mainly in my vintage guns even damascus 2 1/2", with its low pressure and RGLs are usually a little shorter in length to begin with.
RGL
DR16 wad
20/28 15.5 gr
7/8 oz lead
ched 209 1119 fps @ 6160 psi
win 209 1105 fps @ 5760 psi

Got this load per Flycatcher on the old spreadsheets.
Used by alot of friends at vintage gun shoots--you will love the minimum recoil. One very good shooter uses this but drops to 3/4 oz loads. Main drawback is getting the 20/28--I still have 11 lbs, and the availability of the DR16 wad

_________________
we salute you bird of thunder
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
TripleH
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 6:43 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 172
Location: Michigan

3bird - have you ever loaded this in an actual 2.5” hull? Imagine the stack may be too high?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3birddogs
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 7:46 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 07 Sep 2011
Posts: 573
Location: wheeling, wv

No, only in RGL's which are generally a little shorter to begin with, and with it's low pressure and mild velocity, I shoot it without worry in my 2 1/2" chambered guns-- but I mainly do load 2 1/2" cheddites anymore using Universal or 7625.

_________________
we salute you bird of thunder
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
All times are GMT - 7 Hours

View next topic
View previous topic
Page 1 of 1
16ga.com Forum Index  ~  16ga. Ammunition & Reloading

Post new topic   Reply to topic


 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB and NoseBleed v1.09