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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:28 am  Reply with quote



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Gentlemen,

At the present time I am trying to make a deal on a #5 L.C. Smith 16 gauge Grouse gun. The gun is very expensive, we will see what happens. Looks like I will be using some of the that Grouse camp sales money to purchase it, if the deal goes thru.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
l.C. Smith Man

L.C. Smith #5 guns are some of the very best Grouse guns ever made, the one pictured is a 20 gauge, the 16 I am looking to acquire has even nicer custom engraving on it, also by Kraus. #5 guns were 98% hand made, and only 36, 16 gauge #5 guns were known to be made.
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My 12 gauge #5 Gun owned by Kraus, L.C. Smith top Master Engraver, with the likeness of his own English Setter dogs engraved on the #5 Gun. Only 457 12 gauge #5 guns were made.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:19 am  Reply with quote
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AWESOME. go after it, good luck
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Purple16
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:44 pm  Reply with quote



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Beautiful engraving

Hoe long are the barrels?

What does the 16ga weigh?

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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:37 pm  Reply with quote



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Purple 16,

Barrels are 28" weights 6.0lbs, I have shot the gun it is magnificent. Balanced perfectly, swing perfectly, carries just right. The perfect 16 gauge Grouse gun, with world class engraving, by L.C. Smiths top master engraver. Kraus!

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:22 pm  Reply with quote



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Any update? Your taste is classic doubles is something I’ve always admired.

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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:48 am  Reply with quote



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Charlie16,

No update at this time, this is going to take some time to happen.
The gentlemen is thinking about whether he wants to let go of the gun or not, a very hard decision to make on a one of a kind L.C. Smith 16 gauge #5 gun.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2025 2:37 pm  Reply with quote



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Gentlemen,

The deal on the 16 Gauge #5 L.C. Smith fell thru, so I purchased an Eagle Grade 20 gauge instead.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man



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Purple16
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2025 5:10 pm  Reply with quote



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Well.....that's a cool shotgun!

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The lightest Elsie I've ever encountered, 26-inch tubes?

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Aurelio Corso
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Love the 20 and it has 2 triggers and under 6.You did good Dave.
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 8:54 pm  Reply with quote



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Gentlemen,

The deal on the Eagle Grade L.C. Smith has also fallen thru, I do not trust the seller,
he was selling the gun for a 2nd party. I tried to get in contact with him 3 different times over the weekend, no luck. Left a phone message that I was canceling the purchase on Monday morning, still no call back. I no longer trust the seller, will not send him the large amount of money needed to purchase the Eagle Grade gun.

What the heck is going on with my gun purchases lately.

all the Best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man


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Ohio Wirehair
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2025 12:15 pm  Reply with quote



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Dave, that's a shame.Better luck in the future.
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2025 3:21 pm  Reply with quote



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Some of the best deals are the ones you don't make.

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Pine Creek/Dave
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Gentlemen,

The entire thing worked out for the best, I went back to my old buddy Kirby Hoyt at Vintage Doubles and purchased a much better gun. A 1904 Westley Richards Side Lock SXS double gun. God was watching over me big time.

I have no problem sending Kirby Hoyt big money. I definitely know the gun I purchased will arrive at my FFL dealer, in perfect condition.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
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Lloyd3
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2025 5:40 am  Reply with quote



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Yeah, Kirby is a much safer bet.

I've bought several guns from him over the years and he's a peach to deal with.

Good shooting with that Westly!

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