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Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 2180

I am looking for 16 gauge waxed or lubed edge card and fiber wads. Anybody know where to get these. Specifically looking for wads that are good with smokeless powders.

I know that Precision and Ballistics have Butler Circle Fly wads, not interested.

Not really interested in a DIY project, unless I absolutely have to.

I don't want cork or felt wads.

I know I am being fussy.

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2545 Location: West MI

How many and how thick? Have a box and half of these but not sure of black powder compatibility.

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 2180

putz463,

Let me know what you want for them and shipping. Just what I was looking for.

Joined: 27 Jan 2016 Posts: 536 Location: Oswego, Kansas

The waxed hard cards from BP work well for me in my 16ga. I am using the Alcan wads from Precision Reloading for my 28ga and they are great.

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 2180

Byron,

Yeah I liked all the Alcan stuff too and used it up many years ago in my 12 gauge guns. Now I'd like to use card and fiber wads for some hunting applications. I've got the Gualandi 16 gauge data for Vihtavuori powders using card and fiber wads. A guy over on SGW sent me information on good wads made in the UK. The problem is the company won't ship outside the UK.

So the search goes on.

Joined: 13 Apr 2017 Posts: 182

What is wrong with the BP wads? I’ve used BP and Alcan and don’t see much if any difference in them? More info would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1537 Location: Western WA

Question for fiber wad users: They sound great, but how to prevent lead barrel fouling?

TIA
B.

Joined: 09 Dec 2012 Posts: 941

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 2180

Why not BP (I assume Ballistics Products)? I have used the Butler Circle Fly wads that they sell and now own. Those wads left a LOT of lead in two different shotgun barrels that I used them in, because they are not lubed. BPI has something they call card wads that are very thick and lubed, maybe they are good maybe they aren't.

Finally, I have had their loading manuals, which are junk, had some words with the owner and I only buy from them when I absolutely have to. This isn't an absolutely have to situation.

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1537 Location: Western WA

Question for fiber wad users: They sound great, but how to prevent lead barrel fouling?

TIA
B.

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 2180

The card and fiber wads that are waxed edge or lubed, stopped all of the lead fouling in my shotguns.

Joined: 24 Jul 2016 Posts: 575 Location: Ohio

A 16 gauge 1 1/8 oz card and fiber Bismuth buffered load at 1200-1250 would be a gift from the God's to waterfowlers!! Wink

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2545 Location: West MI

MSM2019, glad you can use them, proposing some horse trading, check PM.

Ohio Wirehair, that would not be too difficult to do. Plenty of "stacked" loads smattered throughout the spread sheets + MSM2019 shared an outstanding 1.125 bis "stacked" load in the past that with a little creativity (and some testing) swapping NC'c & fiber or felt would get you your gift load.

Are you looking toward environmentally friendly in that gift load/idea or what else?

FWIW, I've found in a couple of my tested loads when only swapping a NC for a plastic over powder gas seal, all else equal, yielded reduced pressure and kept all other tested data point factors nearly identical.

I bought unwaxed fiber wads and made a mixture of wax to coat them. They worked well. But, I made a mistake of keeping the ammo in my hot barn through a summer. The wax melted down into the powder and they were duds and obviously did not fire. Just a heads up about using the proper wax mix and not storing in a hot site.

Member Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 599 Location: Minnesota