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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ 16ga Paper Hulls, 2.75" and 2.5" Cheddite at BPI |
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Wed Mar 11, 2026 9:23 pm
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| See nj gsp, that is exactly me... I see them available, I have zero need, but if they were purple instead of blue, I'd buy some even though you basically can't reload them, just to whip out one day when wearing a tweed jacket or something silly. |
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Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:22 am
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Like this?
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Thu Mar 12, 2026 2:30 pm
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Nice selfie Mark!  |
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Thu Mar 12, 2026 4:27 pm
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Thu Mar 12, 2026 10:45 pm
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Lol.
Well, BPI also had some lilac or light purple cheddites, not in stock but I added my email. They look like a decent color to help categorize stuff. |
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Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:32 am
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| Dave , he stole MY picture !! |
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Fri Mar 13, 2026 6:28 am
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Now we know why Molly sez AArrrooooooah !
Poor Dog!! |
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Sun Mar 15, 2026 9:54 am
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The wind finally slowed enough to do some patterning. I had some very interesting results with the paper hulls. I made some 23 grain Longshot 1 oz loads, with both the Z16 and SG16. Two each with the X-treme under the shot then over the shot, so total 8 Longshot loads. Then I made 2 with 20 gr Unique 1oz and no spreader. This was out of my Sarasqueta with cyl & IC barrels. The Z16 with the spreader under the shot and the Unique loads were neck and neck. Next was the SG16 with the spreader under the shot. the rest did not impress me. Did not chrono. After that I shot 3 rounds of skeet. Stations 3,4 & 5 have been giving me problems so I worked those hard the first round, then shot two regular rounds with my Vectan AS 3/4 oz loads. The last two rounds were 24 & 23…improvement!
For comparison I then patterned the 3/4 oz loads. No spreader, plastic hulls, DR16. Very nice patterns, absolutely smashed clays. What was most interesting was that the POI was about 80/20, when accounting for muzzle jump.
I think next I’ll try Mark’s 700x 7/8 load in the paper hulls. Slightly reduced muzzle jump vs 1 oz. Really want that 50 with a sxs and paper hulls! Just gotta keep the brain from freaking out  |
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Thu Mar 19, 2026 8:32 pm
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| Dave In AZ wrote: |
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See nj gsp, that is exactly me... I see them available, I have zero need, but if they were purple instead of blue, I'd buy some even though you basically can't reload them, just to whip out one day when wearing a tweed jacket or something silly.
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It's why I have almost a case left of RST papers in #7. One night a very long time ago, After (possibly) a bit too much fine bourbon and the nostalgia of the thought of papers shot through a 100 year old gun got the better of me; and next thing I knew, two cases showed up at my door.
I don't know what powder RST used in those papers all those years ago, but it sure does smell good. Killed a lot of birds with 'em too. Made me a believer in #7 shot being superior to 6 or 7-1/2 for pretty much everything. |
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Fri Mar 20, 2026 3:42 am
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I tried #7 nickel plated for the first time this past season. I like it very much so far. It’s interesting how a good pattern of a versatile shot size can boost your confidence in the uplands.
I loaded up some more blue paper hulls with 700x and 7/8 oz of #9 magnum, no spreader. Went 23, 23 & 24 with the sxs. Had one light strike so I’ll pull the firing pin and clean up the bushings. Lots of fun. |
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Fri Mar 20, 2026 3:44 am
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Fri Mar 20, 2026 3:20 pm
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I've tried a few test loads in these paper hulls, and so far they are nothing special. When fold crimped, the mouths usually tear off on the first or second firing. Roll crimping seems to yield slightly better life.
I was also quite disappointed to find that the basewad is still plastic, so it kind of kills the idea of using them to avoid leaving plastic in the woods.
All that being said, they're still cool, and I am still enjoying playing with them. |
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Fri Mar 20, 2026 5:07 pm
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I agree that they are nothing special. Just a fun gimmick. I haven’t found the combination of powder with the paper hull that creates a nice aroma after firing.
I shot four rounds today; started out great and then fell into my old habits again. I did pattern these loads 7/8 ounce with 700 X. I do like the pattern, however, reloading the once fired hulls became a bit tricky, and I ended up with three rejects. Some crushed down by the metal others had soft spots on the side wall, but the vast majority of them look just like the previous loading. I doubt the paper hull had anything to do with the pattern. |
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Sat Mar 21, 2026 5:33 am
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Now we know why Molly sez AArrrooooooah !
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Fun stuff.... |
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Sun Mar 22, 2026 7:16 am
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Citori16 says:
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| I tried #7 nickel plated for the first time this past season.
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Thumbs Up!!
I like the odd numbers, 7's and 5's. I think 7's are the ticket for most upland work -- NP is cool, and high-antimony lead shot works great, too. You get higher pellet counts than with 6's (33% more!), and at the ranges of most upland shooting, the pellet energy is plenty good. The higher pellet count lets you use more open chokes. Yes, 6's are good for larger and more rangy upland birds, but the stretch that necessitates more pellet energy and the diminished pellet count thins your pattern, forcing you to use a heavier load. I think if you're forced to use heavier loads, 5's are the answer. I would almost never use less than #6 on pheasants, however -- you need to penetrate some bone if you don't get head shots if the pheasant is going mostly straight away. If you shoot a repeater late in the season, put in a #4 for the third shot.
7's are the smallest shot I'll shoot at game. |
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