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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Paper Hull Loads ??? |
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:52 pm
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Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 1545
Location: Michigan
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Well guys, I just ordered 2000 of the Cheddite paper hulls from Graf's.
Would anyone have a good suggestion as to a starting point for loading
these. I will have them tested, but don't really know where I should
start. Hoping to come up with a smokeless load, around 1150 FPS @ 7200
PSI. Also, has anyone ever tried trimming a paper hull. Would really
like to trim these to 2-9/16" if possible. Thanks, Dave |
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:20 pm
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Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 339
Location: Schuyler County, NY.
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I cut em all the time with a little tool I made. Will glad to mail you a picture of it. Hell its easy and I ain't no Einstein ! just a farmer! Let me know |
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:21 pm
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 3438
Location: Illinois
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Capt----Can this dumb Illinois farmboy get in on this too????Thanks |
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Posted:
Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:19 pm
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Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 171
Location: western PA
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Dave. Did Grafs give you a time frame for delivery? I went to their sight and it says out of stock. I would like to get some paper shells for black powder.
Ben |
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:22 pm
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Joined: 23 Nov 2005
Posts: 435
Location: Illinois (in the burbs of St. Louis)
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Dave, Ben et al.
My sources at Graf's say summer at least for the paper hulls.
I don't know if that means June, July, August or Indian Summer late in the fall just "summer"
I did place an order for 2500 back in November in hopes I'd see them in this lifetime once again (since paper seems to be a thing of the past anymore)..... |
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Dr. 16 Gauge |
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:36 pm
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Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 171
Location: western PA
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dr 16 ga. Thank you. BPI has paper shells in 12 gauge but not in 16. I guess your idea of getting them on order is a good way to go. Don't see any other way to get the paper 16's
Ben |
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:59 am
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Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: Michigan
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Guys, I talked with Mike Graf yesterday. He said he expects the 16 gauge paper hulls the end of March or the first of April. Time will tell. |
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:09 am
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Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 40
Location: California
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Dave,
As I shoot 2 9/16" chambered guns I have to trim those 2 3/4" lil darlings down each and every time.
Long ago I fabricated a block - I used good hard red oak, bored out a hole to fit the shell - it has to be exactly perpendicular to the block bottom - and sized very carefully to just allow the hull to slip in. Originally I did this on a wood lathe, but you can also use a drill press if you are clever about it. Make the block big enough that it keeps your fingers out of the way.
I then chuck up a 2 1/2" dia 0.030" thick slitting saw in the drill press on a commercially available mandrel - carefully set the height - and carefully keeping your irreplaceable fingers out of the way, slide the block to the cutter and trim to length.
I have done several thousands of hulls this way. Now that I have metalworking capabilities I have thought about making a better holder out of aluminum, however, I just keep using the old wooden blocks - I have two of them, one for the old discontinued Activs, and one for Fiocchi/Cheddites, and in fact worked up another hundred with it yesterday.
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