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< 16ga. Guns ~ Win Model 24 - 16ga |
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Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:05 pm
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I think some guns feel heavier than others, but i've never actually weighed one. It "feels" lighter than the Rem 870, and about the same or slightly heavier than the Win Model 12. If i was going to shoot 250 rounds one round after the other, say at a clay target, i'd use the remington first, then the 24, then the Model 12.
I said i'd never weighed one, well there was a model 12 in the pickup when i weighed that last load of cows, but i didn't remember to take the shotgun out and have them re weigh the empty truck and trailer.......
guess i'd rather shoot them than weigh them....
rayb |
Last edited by rayb on Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:12 pm; edited 1 time in total _________________ anything other than the 16 gauge is a passing fad
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Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:08 pm
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rayb wrote: |
I think some guns feel heavier than others, but i've never actually weighed one.
well, there was a model 12 in the pickup when i weighed that last load of cows, but i didn't remember to take the shotgun out and have them re weigh the empty .......
I guess i'd rather shoot them than weigh them....
rayb
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yeah, unless they're too heavy...... |
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Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:48 pm
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Location: Atlanta, GA
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It was a Pawn shop winchester 24 that peaked my interest in 16 ga guns and led me to this site. I've since owned 3 of the 24's and I like them a lot. The smaller guage guns I think are quite well balanced and carry well. As mentioned before, the stock dimensions are more like a modern SXS than the typical drop stock guns of the period.
although they were Winchester's "budget" gun of the time, They are still handfitted and the barrels still pattern like winchester barrels: excellent.
Good Shooting,
Weagle
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Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:41 pm
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I like 'em a lot. Somewhere out in the world is a 20ga #24 that I checkered both stock and forend in about 1963, best as I can recall. It was the first "good gun" that I bought with my own money. It was my first (and only) attempt at checkering and looked it. I couldn't shoot it well and traded it for a #12, 16ga. I saw it in a gun store about ten years later and I don't believe the owner believed me when I tried to convince him I had done the checkering. |
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:28 am
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One interesting factoid about the 24's is that the early ones with 26" barrels were factory choked cyl and mod. Very nice combination for grouse and woodcock or quail. However, there are far fewer of those than the IC/M guns, and most 24's are 28" M/F. |
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:44 am
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Larry Brown wrote: |
One interesting factoid about the 24's is that the early ones with 26" barrels were factory choked cyl and mod. Very nice combination for grouse and woodcock or quail. However, there are far fewer of those than the IC/M guns, and most 24's are 28" M/F.
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.....now I would buy one made like that, I think.....(loving your book)
Duncan |
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:50 pm
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Every one I've used banged-up my finger behind the trigger guard. Be sure to take a screwdriver with you to get the empty shells out of the gun. All the parts inside the gun are stampings, basically 2 model 37s welded together. Other than that, you can still find Belgian and French guns for less than 500. Why would anyone want one of these clunkers? |
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:19 pm
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Duncan, glad you like the book!
They do bang some folks on the finger. Easy solution to that is to do a "gripectomy" and turn them into English stock guns. One reason one might want a 24 over a French or Belgian gun (and I say this as a lover of continental guns in general) is that you can shoot heavy American factory loads through a 24. Can't (or shouldn't) do that through the vast majority of French and Belgian guns. And sadly, the days of finding a French or Belgian 16 in good condition are pretty much over. |
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:28 pm
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I kinda of like them, they have an Art Deco look to them, they would look just right inside a '40 Model Ford or Chevy. |
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:55 pm
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postoak wrote: |
I kinda of like them, they have an Art Deco look to them, they would look just right inside a '40 Model Ford or Chevy.
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you're right they do! Larry's right also, they will handle about anything you feed 'em, too.....like the 21.....it's nice having something you don't have to baby like a lot of this other stuff, I see why so many guys like Citoris (aside from they like O/U's and how they shoot)...you can feed 'em anything.... |
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:58 pm
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I handled a Model 24 in 12 gauge at a little shop on Saturday. The butt stock had been cut off and there was no butt plate.
NOW i understand the "bulky and clunky" comments made by others.
The 12 gauge version felt nothing like my 16. Big flat forend seemed like it wads at least 8" wide , and the cut off butt didn't help either. Big thick wrist that i could barely get my fingers around. The action seemed much larger than the one on my 16.
So once again, a good 16 gauge is much better than the 12 gauge version..
I shouldn't have been surprised, but i was..
your results and opinions may vary
rayb |
_________________ anything other than the 16 gauge is a passing fad
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:13 pm
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OK Bro Larry: 'Easy solution to that is to do a "gripectomy"...'
Now I don't mean to be picky (yes I do ), but seeings as how you're a highly paid and internationally respected (at least by the Fausti girls) gun 'riter guy, a "gripectomy" would be removal of the "grip" or "hand" but a "gripoplasty" would be re-shaping a pistol grip into a straight hand grip.
And don't go suggesting that some of us might benefit from a 'liposuction' between the pinnae |
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:54 pm
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Sometimes, Rev, I just can't get a grip. I stand corrected! But 24's are just about the easiest gun to convert from PG to straight. No checkering to worry about, and no long bottom tang. |
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:12 pm
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Geez, I hate medical-term perfectionists. You'd think the guy was a doctor or something ! |
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:35 pm
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