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| < 16ga. Guns Wanted or For Sale ~ 16 Ga. guns for sale !!! |
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Sat May 19, 2007 9:49 am
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From LC Smith Shotguns by Lt Col William Brophy page 159:
12 ga. bore is .732, Imp. cyl. is .725, Mod. .710, full .695.
16 ga. bore .662, Imp. cyl. .657, mod. .639, full .629
20 ga. bore .615 imp. cyl. .610, mod. 595, full .585.
Despite that data, some LC chokes are bored very tight
Keith Kearcher in Bend, OR would be a great choice for gunsmithing
http://members.toast.net/keithkearcher
Gary is a wood specialist who could glasbed the head of the stock and reinforce around the lockplates. And here are 4 more guys in OR:
Dennis Smith
The Stock Doctor
Tygh Valley, OR 97063-9797
(541) 483-2182
thestockdr@riflemag.com
Randy Murray Murray's Custom Gunstocks
The Dalles, OR 541-296-6916
James Tucker Oregon
541-664-9160
John Vest Oregon
541-923-8898
Glasbedding the stock would give me alot more confidence and flexibility in the loads I'd choose; I'd have no concern with about any factory 1 oz or the B&P 1 1/16 oz loads. The LC action is plenty strong (although there is no reason to use loads beyond what it designed for), the concern is the...uh...delicate stock which is prone to cracks (the trade-off for the grace and elegance of the LC  ) |
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Sat May 19, 2007 9:53 am
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| you and this Lc stuff again. I almost miss the tomato stake lovey dovey gushing you once did. |
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Sat May 19, 2007 10:56 am
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Sat May 19, 2007 3:28 pm
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Doc -Gary declined because he's never done it before and doesnt really work on shotguns. Maybe Kearcher can. How difficult is it? Couldnt you do it yourself? I've glass bedded rifles before. What does galssing the head of the stock consist of? And the lock plates? Is the glass placed behind the lock plates or behind the wood? As for the heaad of the stock, do you glass right on top of the wood there - or do you have to remove some wood as well first. If its just a matter of glassing and reinforcement, it shouldnt be that hard to do. How much disassembly of the gun is required? Thanks.
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Sat May 19, 2007 3:36 pm
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Sat May 19, 2007 4:05 pm
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| revdocdrew wrote: |
And when do we get to see pics of YOUR LC thudddd? (you closet sweet Elsie love slave  Now if we can just get PGG and TJC to see the light  )
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See the light?? I've only just ventured into Sterly territory. And there is a Baker somewhere in the back of my safe... But we can't talk about the Baker on this forum.
Over the years, several "Reverends" have begun odd affairs. Jim Baker / Jessicsa Hahn comes to mind. Ted Haggert / Gay prostitute / crystal meth is another. How 'bout Reverend Drew / and a slim at the waist, 6 lb. tall (29") Fraulein, who lived past the carnage of the 2 world wars. Now, that young gal, still too young to be called a dried up old hag, could fill your mind with some fabulous stories. And she would be real easy to carry home with those sling swivels. Now, there is something for thou to covet. |
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Sat May 19, 2007 4:18 pm
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And as mentioned on a previous post about a different subject..... drew don't forget the slings are a god send for one thats has advanced so far in your life cycle as to being able to see the end of the path....  |
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Sat May 19, 2007 5:11 pm
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Sat May 19, 2007 5:21 pm
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Re Brophy's info on 16ga bores and chokes . . . I have encountered some seriously underbored 16ga Elsies. Like down in the mid-650's. If you're using a Galazan tool, that can give you some false readings on choke.
Peter, I was once married to a woman from NY. Vowed never to go back . . . |
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Sat May 19, 2007 5:34 pm
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| Larry Brown wrote: |
Re Brophy's info on 16ga bores and chokes . . . I have encountered some seriously underbored 16ga Elsies. Like down in the mid-650's. If you're using a Galazan tool, that can give you some false readings on choke.
Peter, I was once married to a woman from NY. Vowed never to go back . . .
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I'm still married to mine. But a similar vow... |
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Sat May 19, 2007 5:36 pm
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| Larry: According to the specs. some 16 bore Smiths were bored at .650, rather than .662 .. MDC |
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Sat May 19, 2007 8:27 pm
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| revdocdrew wrote: |
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And when do we get to see pics of YOUR LC thudddd? (you closet sweet Elsie love slave Now if we can just get PGG and TJC to see the light )
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I'll stick with my little Sterlyworth thank you. It's a sweet carrying, straight shootin little girl. Even if she does like those midget sized 16ga shells. |
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Sat May 19, 2007 8:31 pm
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| Huns, I like this PGG's way of thinking. Purly sinful. |
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Wed May 23, 2007 5:26 pm
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Hey,
I was in the Lower Hudson Valley today, and my car just seemed to swerve off the highway at route 44. So, I happened to stop in at Safari ( they have a clean restroom). I wasn't goofing off during business time... really I wasn't.
Anyway, I told Niles' wife, Kim that I put up a post about their 16 ga. guns, and that it was a Society member that had purchased the 16 ga. Smith. Jig actually made the deal while I was there. I don't know if they corresponded via phone or e-mail. Hey Jig... good luck with her. (the gun, not Kim!)
I then got to fondle that matched pair of boss 16 ga. guns. SWEET. Both stocks originally had a short length of pull, but now sport wood extensions that you can't even see without having been told about the extensions. Almost invisible. I don't get the single trigger though. I never held a gun that balanced so well and felt so very right. I also looked at the model 21, and the Woodward. But they're just not in the Boss class, as far as I'm concerned. |
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Thu May 24, 2007 11:04 am
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| Was the 21 as nice as it looks in the photos, and did you examine the Parker? |
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