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< 16ga. Guns ~ DeHaan S2 16ga Weight - Wow! |
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Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:48 pm
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Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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Location: NoDak
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Hi all, I was looking around and thought I'd check out what DeHaan has now. I looked at the S2 in 16ga and saw the weight at 7.4 lbs! Boy that to me is heavy for a 16. Why would you want a 16 in that weight? I love 16's but I like them because they are supposed to be light, slim and trim. For that weight you may as well get a 12.
This in no way is ment to be a slam on DeHaan. From what I've read they are good guns at a good price. Just was floored by this weight issue.
Take Care!!
Greg |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:40 am
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I had ordered a 16ga OU from Dehaan.
I sent it back because of weight.
Their website listed the weight at 7 lbs, it was closer to 8.
They even told me when I called about returning it that some of the 16's weight more than the 12's. |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:52 am
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Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Wisconsin
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16 gauge for upland hunting, maximum of 6&1/2#'s.-Dick |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:17 am
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Location: Somewhere in the Socialist State of Minnesota
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budrichard wrote: |
16 gauge for upland hunting, maximum of 6&1/2#'s.-Dick
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Is that the rule then for upland hunting, 6-1/2lbs? A lot of 16 gauge A-5 owners will be getting rid of there guns. All of my 16 gauge guns weigh more then that. Of coarse I'm only 68 years old, so I ques when I get your age I'll get a lighter one. |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:16 pm
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Joined: 09 Sep 2006
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Location: NoDak
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oldhunter wrote: |
budrichard wrote: |
16 gauge for upland hunting, maximum of 6&1/2#'s.-Dick
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Is that the rule then for upland hunting, 6-1/2lbs? A lot of 16 gauge A-5 owners will be getting rid of there guns. All of my 16 gauge guns weigh more then that. Of coarse I'm only 68 years old, so I ques when I get your age I'll get a lighter one.
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IMO, No its up to you to carry what you like, as a rule, double guns (especially SxS) should be lighter than other guns. I also have an A5 16 and it is heavy. I don't use it much anymore, did when I was younger.
Good Luck!
Greg |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:53 pm
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Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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Location: Leesburg Florida
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My 16g SO from DeHaan weighs 6lbs 11 oz. A tad heavy for a 16 but it handles beautifully. The S2 will weigh more than the SO because of the side plates. On his shotgun world forum, DeHaan says the reason some 16s are heavy is that although the receiver is 16g specific, the barrels are the same exterior dimention as the 12s with smaller 16g holes. Apparently it is cost prohibitive to buy smaller dimention barrel steel because of the light demand for 16s.
Buy the SO in 16 g,youll like it! |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:02 pm
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Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Posts: 759
Location: Somewhere in the Socialist State of Minnesota
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i never heard thes rules untill I joined the 16 gauge society. I've been shooting 16 gauges for fourty years, ever since I came out of the service. All those birds I've knocked down, must be hollering. I'm not fair. I've got a 6 1/2lb 12 gauge pump and I'll get rid of it if somebody gives me $350.00. Worst gun I've ever tried to upland hunt with. Swings so quick may as well be hunting with a stick. My 16 gauge sxs weighe 7lbs. 4 ozs. My over under 16 gauge is heavier and I haven't missed a bird since I tried it. My 20 gauge o/u weighs 7lbs 4 ozs and I used that for the first time and 4 fior 4 on the birds. You can have your light guns. Go to the gym and workout. Lift a few weights. I don't post here often anymore, but I'm tired of this light gun is better. Half of those guns are probably not as light as people say anyway. I know you all walk ten miles and are tired and need the light gun to finish the day. Have a good day. |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:07 pm
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Joined: 06 Apr 2007
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hey old hunter i finally got the std 12 refinished and back together. i'll shoot you, no pun intended, a few pix tommorrow. i'm w/ you on the weight thing. guess i'm just not enough of a connouisseur to notice a few ounces either way. |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:18 pm
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Oldhunter, there is a place for both heavy guns and light guns. Heavy guns, so folks can bitch about how heavy they are, and light gun so they bitch about how they kick! |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:11 pm
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Location: Kansas High Plains
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Truth be told, most of us would shoot better with guns that are heavier than "the ideal weight". I like my 6-1/2 pound Fox 16 A LOT, but sometimes I think I shot better with my old (heavy) Stevens .
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_________________ I feel a warm spot in my heart when I meet a man whiling away an afternoon...and stopping to chat with him, hear the sleek lines of his double gun whisper "Sixteen." - Gene Hill, Shotgunner's Notebook |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:34 pm
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Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Location: Southern Ohio
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When I think upland game, I think Grouse and Woodcock. It's ones own privilege to use a 7 1/4 pound gun for upland hunting, but you'll most likely be in a minority, I personally think 6 to 6 1/2 is about right depending on the gauge.. Take Care .. MDC |
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Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:37 pm
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M D Christian wrote: |
When I think upland game, I think Grouse and Woodcock. It's ones own privilege to use a 7 1/4 pound gun for upland hunting, but you'll most likely be in a minority, I personally think 6 to 6 1/2 is about right depending on the gauge.. Take Care .. MDC
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Well, where I come from, upland game is pheasants, and if you shoot a double gun at all you'll be in the minority ! As I've said many times here and other places: I live in the middle of a 12ga-auto-loader-with-the-plug-out-world, and you won't find many 6 or 6-1/2 lb guns in that group! A 7 or 7-1/4 lb gun is a lightweight to these boys. But you're right: to each his own, and ain't that a wonderful thing?
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_________________ I feel a warm spot in my heart when I meet a man whiling away an afternoon...and stopping to chat with him, hear the sleek lines of his double gun whisper "Sixteen." - Gene Hill, Shotgunner's Notebook |
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:29 pm
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Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 370
Location: Amarillo, Texas
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For hunting where I walk and carry the gun all day I like 6-1/4 pounds or less with a longer barrel.
For dove hunting and clays I like a 16 to weigh more than 7 pounds.
I am 52. Until ten years ago I carred 7-3/4 pound all day without noticing it.
Best,
Mike |
_________________ NEVER trust a dog to watch your food. |
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:48 pm
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Joined: 25 Feb 2006
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Location: Boulder City, NV
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I think I'm with most of you on the weight issue. If you're standing around all morning hunting doves, the heavier gun is the more accurate one.
Last year during our Arizona dove hunt, my nephew, along on his first hunt, couldn't hit squat with my Model 37 sixteen -- he kept stopping his swing at the moment of the shot. Gave him a big, heavy 12 gauge Sarasqueta and he started knocking them down. It's so heavy he couldn't stop his swing if he wanted to.
Now, when I'm climbing desert mountains looking for chukar or walking the mesquite chasing quail, I want the lightest functional weapon I can find. I just follow the maxim: a tool for every job (at least that's the excuse I give my wife for why I own so many guns). |
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Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:26 pm
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Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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Location: Leesburg Florida
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The more I read these posts, the more I think that my SO at 6lbs 11oz may be the perfect weight for me. I shoot some clays to keep my hand in but quail. woodcock(Yes we have woodcock in FL) and pheasant are my love. |
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