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sage1
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:53 pm  Reply with quote



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I took my SW 16 to the Post Office today to have it weighed. You can still do that in a small town. (pop. 600) Postal scale read 5 lbs 13 oz.. Certainly lighter than I expected. Very nice.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:10 pm  Reply with quote
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The Fox guns were built with 4 barrel weights, #1 being the heaviest and #4 being the lightest. On Philly guns the barrels are stamped; you should be able to tell if they are 1,2,3 or 4 barrels; Utica guns, I'm told, are not always stamped. If they're not stamped, the only way to tell for sure is to weigh them; did you happen to weigh just the barrels? There is a chart in Michael McIntosh's book on Fox guns, or I can provide the weights to you. Sounds like your gun is pretty light, so I'm guessing #4 barrels; my 16ga ejector with 28" #4 barrels is right at 6-1/2 lbs., and the barrels are dead nuts on 3 lbs, 1 oz. As I recall you thought your barrels might be 26"; is that what they are? If so the 1's are 3lbs. 15 oz., 2's are 3 lbs. 10 oz., 3's are 3 lbs. 4 oz., 4's are 2 lbs. 15 oz.

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sage1
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:43 pm  Reply with quote



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Could you tell me where on the barrels that number is usually stamped?

Thanks

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Larry Brown
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:11 pm  Reply with quote
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That number, in many cases, ranges from hard to see to invisible. But if I recall correctly, 16 and 20ga Foxes were both built on the same frame, which is another reason the 16's are so light.
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16minty
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:28 am  Reply with quote



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^ what he said, my 16ga sterlingworth (well all I've seen included) I couldnt find a visible number, but on graded guns the number of barrel weights is stamped on the barrel flats. I'm not saying they didnt number sterlingworths, but i dont know...
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Twice Barrel
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:13 am  Reply with quote
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From my modest small sample the barrel weights are marked on my 1913, 1923 and 1928 vintage Philly Sterlingworths but not marked on my 1935 and 1939 vintage Utica built guns. My 1935 vintage AE has barrel weight markings but it also has the more refined features of a Philladelphia made Fox. It appears that this gun may have been marked and sold by Savage from a gun built in Philly. The conclusion I have drawn from my sample is that it appears that Savage discontinued the practice of marking barrel weights on their Utica built Sterlingworth guns.
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Chukarman
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:53 pm  Reply with quote



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16minty wrote:
^ what he said, my 16ga sterlingworth (well all I've seen included) I couldnt find a visible number, but on graded guns the number of barrel weights is stamped on the barrel flats. I'm not saying they didnt number sterlingworths, but i dont know...


I have never seen the weight numbers stamped on the barrel flats. They are usually stamped on the bottom of the barrels an inch or two above the flats.

A lot of guns have the barrel stamps filed off in finishing, so they will not always be visible.

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