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Did Remington ever make a wingmaster 870, I don't think they do now but wondered if they ever did? I forgot to add, in 16 ga, sorry, I think I found out they did make 16

Member Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 3438 Location: Illinois

1950-3 26,28,30 in bbl
Field Wingmaster disc i 1980

Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 109 Location: S.W.PENNSYLVANIA

Remington 870 16ga guns had a 16ga barrel on a 12 ga receiver & their catalog listed weight is 7lb 8oz the same weight as my 870 12ga. Their are new in box. (NIB) listed on WWW,GUNSAMERICA.COM. Remington 870 Wingmasters 16ga 28in barrel Mod choke for $585.00.

RON

Member Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 358 Location: Houston

I think hoashooter's dates are too limited. Mine is a 1955 gun, according to the production code stamped on the barrel.

Here's some info from the Remington site. The dates in parentheses appear to be the year the model was introduced.

16 gauge:
870 AP (1950)
870 BC Special Grade (1950)
870 ADL Deluxe Grade (1950)
870 BDL Deluxe Grade (1950)
870D Tournament Grade (1950)
870F Premier Grade (1950)
870TC Trap Grade (1950)
870TD Trap Tournament Grade (1950)
870TF Trap Premier Grade (1950)
870S Trap Special Grade (1950)
870SA Skeet Grade (1950)
870SB Skeet Grade (1950)
870SD Skeet Tournament Grade(1950)
870SF Skeet Premier Grade (1950)
870R Riot Grade(1950)
870 ADX (1960)
870 AP Brushmaster (1961)
870 Wingmaster (2002)
870 Express (2002)
870 Express Synthetic (2002)
870 Express Synthetic Youth (2002)

Kremerd,

The original field grade 16ga 870 was discontinued in 1980 so they were made for 30 years. These guns are a totally diferent gun than the newer one reintroduced in 2002 and discontinued again in 2007. The newer version has a 12ga barrel with a 16ga hole that makes the gun much heavier than it needs to be. Although they were advertised as weighing 7 1/2 lbs in reality most are heavier than that.

The older 16ga 870 had a barrel that was sized specifically for the 16ga and the guns weighed 6 1/2-6 3/4 lbs. inspite of the fact that they are built on a 12ga receiver. If you look hard you can probably pick one up in nice shape for about $200-250. I paid less than that for mine.

My '52 vintage 16ga 870 is one of my favorite shotguns. It weighs 6#- 9oz., carries light, is balanced well and shoots great. I like it so much I sent the barrel in to Mike Orlen last week to have choke tubes installed so I can use it for anything. Total cost with 3 choke tubes and return shipping, $104.00. Money well spent I think.

Dennis

I sold a 16 gauge 870 Express- NIB for $300 a few months back.
Thought that was a fair price.

Lefty Dude,

Contact info is,

Mike Orlen
79 Salem St.
Amherst, MA 01002
Ph. (413) 256-1630
Fax (413) 253-5665
micheal.orlen@verizon.net

Calling is the best way to contact him.

Is it looking like we will have any birds to hunt this fall?

Dennis

Square Load;

Thanks for the info. I want to get the 54 ready to go for the fall hunt, this will be my quail piece. My 67 870 is just too nice to be banging around on the quail hunts. I use it for the Dove shoots in September. Speaking of Doves the White Wings arrived here about three weeks ago and have set up nesting in my Citrus trees. And this year we have another Dove, other than the Mourning & White Wing. It is slightly smaller than a White wing & larger than a Mourning. A solid color with a black band under its throat. Kinda a light gray mauve in color. I read that this bird was migrating to our area and this is the first one that I saw at my back yard water station. I forgot the name of the critter.

The Quail hatch is in full swing. Hopefully with the Fall & Winter rains we had there is plenty of feed on the Desert for the humble Birds. And now the cool spring and Rain this Month to keep some green for them till the Summer rains come. I want to be optomistic about the Quail population for October, I think it will a very good Quail hunting year in the State. We will know in a few Months when the Summer rains start.

Hope for a Nice Monsoon season this Summer. Wink

Thanks again,

Art

Sounds like the Eurasion Collared Dove. They have been feeding in my bird feeders for the last 2 years. Sometimes have as many as 12-15 around. They stay here all winter provided there is food in the feeders. I have more in the winter than summer. If my closest neighbor (1/4 mile) wasn't a rabid anti-hunter I might shoot some for dinner. Laughing

Dennis

Member Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 328

We have been hunting collard dove for several years now. There is not a limit on them. They are larger than a white wing, only slightly smaller than a pigeon. I am using a 16 with 6 shot to bring em down. After a few days getting shot at they tend to fly higher and 7.5 to 8 shot doesn't bring them down at all.