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My RMC all brass hull hunting loads are low pressure 16 and 28 gauge loads. I have used these loads for two seasons with good success. I use smokeless powder. Unique, Herco, Universal Clays, Trail boss and IMR4756 are the powders that I'm using and all have published velocities in the 1200+ fps and pressures below well below 10000 psi, with the IMR below 8000 psi.
I also have a new chronograph and when the weather gets suitable I will test my loads. According to Rocky Mountain Cartridge, all published reloads are suitable for their all brass shotgun hulls because of the hull’s volume, which is greater than plastic/paper hulls. RMC told me that because of the grater volume, pressures will be lower. Your comments please.

Dumb idea.

The pressure might be less so that the loads aren't dangerous but they also might not perform worth a crap.

I have a shotgun built in 1866 that requires "low pressure" loads. Except for this gun I load without regard to pressure as long as the pressure is at or below allowable service pressure for the gauge.

Using just one hull is of no significant benefit to me - especially if the hulls are the absolutely attrociously priced RMC hulls.

I just dumpster dive at my local sporting clays course for free empties or buy factory ammo and reload the hulls.

Fly Champ,
So far it has been a good idea. All of my brass hull loads came from Tom Armbruster, who has pressure tested each load. I'm not unhappy with the loads that I use because they pattern adequate and four of them pattern beautifully.

Maybe a better way of stating the question is: How does case volume effect pressure and velocity. A comparison would be a Win' AA hull vs a straight walled Federal hull or in my case, an all brass hull?

Re: RMC brass hull prices and dumpster diving for hulls. I would have to drive an hour and a half only to be disappointed when I realized that the only clay shooting facility dumpsters in my area do not contain many 16 gauge hulls or 28 gauge hulls either.

Only the few are bold enough to use the true original Shotgun reloading hull, Brass. Wink

FlyChamps
I agree with you. If I were shooting clays as much as you, brass hulls would not be an option. I'm assuming that you are shooting black powder with your Damascus barreled Joseph Lang. If you reread my original post, the first sentence - My RMC all brass hull hunting loads are .................. and I go on to say "smokeless powder".......... So, if you shoot bp and use your damascus gun for clays and not hunting, why did you respond to this topic? You seem to be firmly against the use of brass hulls, why? Just don't like brass hulls, smokeless powder, barrels without damascus construction or hunters?

Every one of those loads shot in my Lang was smokeless. Damascus barrels are suitable for appropriate smokeless loads. As I mentioned in my earlier post it was nitro (smokeless) proofed in 1990 at the Birmingham proof house.

Most of my shooting is at clays but I also hunt quail with my Lang, most recently just three weeks ago. It still kills birds just like when it was new. I use the same low pressure smokeless loads to hunt that I use on clays. I shoot clays primarily to practice for hunting.

I have three issues with brass hulls: 1. They're expensive 2. They are very slow to load - even for hunting quantities 3. The overshot wad must be glued in place and when jostled around during transport or use they sometimes break free and you have a pockeful of shot and a useless round.

I responded to this thread because your subject was "one hull all loads?". There isn't such a thing as "one hull all loads" - never has been, probably never will be.

Sorry, I missed the nitro proofing. I am a shirttail relative of the late August Pachmayr and in the early 70's I came very close to buying a Holland and Holland 16 gauge. The shotgun had been refurbished and felt good in my hands. I still kick myself for not buyin g the H&H. I envy your Joseph Lang. Re your 3 issues with brass hulls, I have to agree with #1 and #2, but I'm fairly certain that I have fixed the dislodged shot problem that you state in #3.
I probably don't load more than three boxes of hunting loads and I often reload those within a day or so. I disagree about the one hull for all loads because so far I have successfully met my limited needs. Thank you for your replies and good shooting

Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 31 Location: N. FL

Brayhaven,
RMC is located in Cody WY and manufactures brass hulls in all gauges. Contact Dave Casey 307-587-9693

Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 31 Location: N. FL