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paladino22
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:21 pm  Reply with quote



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Does anyone have any info on this gun or it's manufacturer?

I saw one at the local gun shop but can't seem to find much info on it.


6lbs or less very light and extremely balanced, case color reciever [60%],29.5" barrels[krupp steel] , greener cross bolt, splinter, round knob, & cheek piece on stock. I believe it is pre-WW2, and 2.75" chamber. locks tight.
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offhand35
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:29 pm  Reply with quote
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Well, I GOOGLED the mfr. and found this bookseller, who lists a book of German and Austrian gunmakers trade catalogs, incl. Schmidt & Habermann.
It's $60 though.

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paladino22
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:59 am  Reply with quote



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yep, saw that as well. not sure where else to look.
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Larry Brown
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:39 pm  Reply with quote
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About all I can find is that S&H were makers in Suhl prior to WWII. If it's 2 3/4" chambers, there should be a 70MM mark on the barrel flats. Also check for a nitro proof, which would either be an N together with one of various symbols, or th word nitro. And there will likely also be a date code, 3 or 4 digit, which is month and year of proof.

You may want to try posting on the bulletin board at gunshop.com. Pretty sharp guys there on exotic old doubles.
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paladino22
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:14 pm  Reply with quote



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no 70mm marking, but it does say "nitro",,,this may be a 2.5" .
is there a good way to measure this without a bore gauge??
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offhand35
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:45 pm  Reply with quote
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I have tried two different methods of checking chamber size without a chamber gauge.

One is to take a small steel rule with a square end, and run it down the side of the chamber until you detect a stop. This might tell you the chamber length. However, some chambers don't have a very definate step to catch the end of the rule, and may not be very easy to determine.

The easiest is to take a BRAND NEW, NEVER CRIMPED 70mm hull, Measure its overall length first, as it may be +/-. Gently place it into the chamber. Note, if this is a break open action, you will have to do this with the barrel off so the ejector/extractor will not interfere. If it is a 70mm chamber, it will fit completely.

If it is a 65mm chamber or shorter, the shell will stop before the rim seats. Measure the amount of shell protruding, including the outside edge of teh rim, and subtract that from the overall length of the shell. You will have a good idea of chamber length.

This 2nd method has worked for me on chambers that I already know to be 65mm, in both autoloaders and doubles.

Let us know what you find.

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paladino22
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:02 pm  Reply with quote



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yep, the shell stops short.
it must be a 2.5"

thanks,
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BigCreekMI
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:38 pm  Reply with quote
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I have a 16ga S&H fluid steel hammer gun with extensive engraving that came to US from Deutchland as WWII war trophy as did many Euro guns of that era. Nice light gun, but I don't care for exposed hammers. Attractive conversation piece.

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