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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Before it leaves the nest |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:47 pm
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Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Location: Ontario
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FYI, Mike and Bill I did that so that the dolls head was clearly visible. I wanted those who weren't familiar with the gun to see exactly what was there. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:50 pm
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Location: Ontario
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wingshooter wrote: |
Yes, and really the weak point of an Ideal. Not much more than a stamped piece of sheetmetal, but those of us who love the gun kinda view it as a small mole on a super model.
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I tend to view the safety more as like a difficult to undo bra clasp. A headache, don't really need it there but well worth the effort of figuring it out. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Posted:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:50 pm
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 425
Location: Big D
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You're a lousy liar. (regarding the doll's head, not the bra on a doll) |
_________________ Consistency is the currency of credibility
Manufrance Ideal 314:
Barrel set 1- (choke) .000 , .007 , chamber 70mm
Barrel set 2- .025 , .047 , 65mm
Barrel set 3- .005, .015
Manufrance Ideal No. 5:
Choke: .000, .010, 70mm chambers |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:51 pm
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Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Location: Ontario
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wingshooter wrote: |
It may just be the best condition Ideal in North America...Christmas indeed!
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I agree with this. I have never seen another close to this condition. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:55 pm
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 425
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Dustin's 12 ga no.6 was still packed in cosmoline when he saw it in a gunshop near Houston. IIRC, only paid 2 large for it. THAT is the find of the century: still in the grease, on this side of the pond! |
_________________ Consistency is the currency of credibility
Manufrance Ideal 314:
Barrel set 1- (choke) .000 , .007 , chamber 70mm
Barrel set 2- .025 , .047 , 65mm
Barrel set 3- .005, .015
Manufrance Ideal No. 5:
Choke: .000, .010, 70mm chambers |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:07 pm
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Joined: 02 Dec 2013
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wingshooter wrote: |
Dustin's 12 ga no.6 was still packed in cosmoline when he saw it in a gunshop near Houston. IIRC, only paid 2 large for it. THAT is the find of the century: still in the grease, on this side of the pond!
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Tell me that's some good number of years ago...Please! An old no. 6 still in factory grease for $2k?! That would be a find indeed! At least it wasn't a 16! |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:11 pm
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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Bill, that's the only part that makes it bearable- it was/is a 12. I think he doubled his money when he sold it. A friend and mentor, who did a stint in a Cabela's gun room, said the engraving on Dustin's Ideal was the finest execution he'd ever seen.
I believe this is a pic of Dustin's:
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_________________ Consistency is the currency of credibility
Manufrance Ideal 314:
Barrel set 1- (choke) .000 , .007 , chamber 70mm
Barrel set 2- .025 , .047 , 65mm
Barrel set 3- .005, .015
Manufrance Ideal No. 5:
Choke: .000, .010, 70mm chambers |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:37 pm
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Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Location: Ontario
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Now I'm going to have to ask Dustin for pics. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:38 pm
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Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Location: Ontario
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wingshooter wrote: |
You're a lousy liar. (regarding the doll's head, not the bra on a doll)
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Dork!
LOL |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:44 am
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Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Posts: 33
Location: Illinois
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Beautiful gun...! One question - what is the small metal piece on the underside of the buttstock ? A drop down sling swivel stud..?? Thank you!
Brittman
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:16 am
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Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Location: Ontario
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Wes Stueber wrote: |
Beautiful gun...! One question - what is the small metal piece on the underside of the buttstock ? A drop down sling swivel stud..?? Thank you!
Brittman
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You are close. The gun (as do most MF Ideals) has a built in, retractable sling. What you are seeing is the little piece that you pull on to uncoil the sling from within the buttstock. The same little metal piece is also what is used to attach the sling end to the fitting on the underside of the barrels. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:06 am
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Joined: 13 Aug 2004
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Location: Illinois
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canvasback,
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it! After I read your answer, I remember reading of such a setup years ago. I have never seen one personally.
It would be great if the viewers could see the sling extended? Is the sling material leather or canvas?
A cool shotgun..! Thanks..
Brittman |
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:54 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1944
Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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While not in the same zip code as canvasback's or the one featured in this thread as far as condition or grade, here's my 1935 Ideal 302 Clunkerette 16 ga. with extended sling. It is leather.
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:40 pm
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Joined: 13 Aug 2004
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Location: Illinois
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Gil S,
Thanks for the photo of your Ideal - very nice! I wonder how much wood they would remove to make room for their sling assy. in the stock? I can imagine a sling comes in handy while in the field?
Did you get your limit of Woodcock that day? (Nice Parker, also w/ the birds.)
Thanks again for the photo of your Ideal from 1935 - very cool shotgun! I hope to see one some day!
Brittman |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:51 pm
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1944
Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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Wes, thank you for the kind words. There were three of us hunting that day and 2 of us got limits. The third gun was two shy. Seven were in the bag. A younger man was hunting with Floyd and I and that is his 1903 VH 28 gauge. What a gun! It was January 28th of this year. We were really in the birds that day finding 18 in a morning hunt.
I've had the buttplate off and it appears to be a 3"x 3"x 1" ( if memory serves) square hollowed out with the reel contraption inserted into the hollowed area. Gil |
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